On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 02:32:49 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 20:02:48 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 06:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by GordonPost by Rich80105On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:09:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by GordonPost by TonyPost by Rich80105Our hospitals are going so well under the new Government that they
are
running out of work - so we first have Simeon Brown determined to
give
them more work by putting up speed limits that local areas (and
businesses) want kept lower, Now we have the reimposition of
prescription fees that researchers say will put more people in
hospital. Another "FreeDumb" policy from NAct1st - but of course they
may well say they are just facilitating competition - Chemist
Warehouse is big enough to continue offering free prescriptions to
burn off more small chemists - that is presumably "fair competition"
to NAct1st - did Chemist Warehouse make a (carefully not political)
donation to the NZ Taxpayer union?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/521003/prescription-fees-return-we-re-going-to-see-higher-rates-of-hospital-admissions
Your sarcasm is showing - how about you give credit where it is
due?
No,
because all you want is to bring the government down - what a loser
that
makes
you. Get a life and support a government that is trying to get this
country
out
of the Labour caused depression we are in.
As well as getting out of the lack of confidence.
Your problem with lack of confidence in the current government is
shared by an increasing number of people, Gordon.
You incessant sarcasm and deliberate mis statement of posts by more competent
folk than yourself is shared by an increasing number of people.
Post by Rich80105There are a lot of
businesses closing due to worsening business conditions
Not worsening, but still bad because of the incompetence of the last
government.
Post by Rich80105- many are
concerned about the effect of very high rate increases that will come
through in the next year, and the expectation that wages and salaries
are unlikely to keep pace with inflation. The cannot see the benefits
now accruing to landlords affecting them at all For most, 2024 is
turning out to be much harder than earlier years . . . .
No that is untrue. In fact it is a lie.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/07/03/construction-downturn-bites-hard-as-kainga-ora-refocuses/
The construction sector is starting to shut down as this government
stops building new homes, and this article highlights the problems in
the construction sector for private builds.
And yet we have
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350331318/chris-bishop-sets-out-radical-land-use-and-planning-reforms
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/521254/watch-housing-minister-reveals-housing-planning-changes-to-flood-country-with-new-homes
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018945459/govt-announces-policies-so-cities-can-be-expanded-outwards
and Brown is currently talking about problems for Auckland from the
dictatorial approach being taken.
The reality is that local authorities will charge through the roof for
services in new areas where they do not want new developments - until
they get through the requirements for 3 waters without government
assistance.
Guesswork.
As one Mayor said: Show us the money. Most Councils are (or will be)
up to their limit on borrowing shortly, without any new developments.
So how can they afford not to charge full cost for any new
developments?
You said "through the roof" which implies more than "full cost" and was
deliberately emotive.
So you have changed your mind. Well done. Full cost it is and should be.
Full cost is what I meant
It certainly is not what you wrote and what you wrote was deliberately
npolitical and emotive, but why would that surprise anybody?
You were responding to my post which said: "So how can they afford not
to charge full cost for any new developments? "
So yes I did refer to "full cost," which is hugely more than
developers have paid in the past for infrastructure.
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105- the full cost of all infrastructure. Most
Councils will be at or close to their maximum borrowing limit - in
case that went over your head, that means they will not be able to
borrow more to meet any share of costs for new developments. They will
therefore be unable to assist new developments with any of the costs
of necessary infrastructure - and Councils are also likely to be using
all their relevant staff and equipment on current water projects. if
developers have to pay for all that there will be significant
increases in costs compared with re-developing land already zoned
residential. Would you call a doubling of costs (for example) "through
the roof", Tony? As one Mayor said "Show us the money" . . .
Nonsense. If it needs to be done, and is not just a hope, then we need to fund
it - that means ratepayers. SImple, the council needs to find the money - it is
not up to government. Otherwise we might as well scrap local councils - is that
your plan?
After years of right wing "NAct" local councilors winning elections by
promising to "keep rates low", we now know that what they were really
doing was cutting corners - and large corners at that - in long term
maintenance and development of services. But now our New Zealand
government has decided it wants to "keep taxes low" - well mostly for
landlords, (but then nobody else really counts to this Government) and
they cannot afford to help local authorities out - with either
existing infrastructure or new infrastructure - and if some local
authorities reached limits on borrowing well they will just have to
stop borrowing . . . .
Now if you have "The Answer" for building all this new development at
higher interest rates than government can borrow at then do let us
know Tony, but it does seem that Government are saying that local
bodies just have to get on with it and make 30 years development land
able to be rezoned to give Developers a choice of where to expand . .
. so if you were a local body Councilor what would you do, Tony?
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Otherwise all Bishop is doing is yet another flip flop on the similar
rule changes under Labour where they allowed higher density in cities
- and from commentary so far it will allow dwellings that are less
safe - being a developer is likely to get extremely risky . . .
No the government is trying to fix the fuckups by the last government. Simple.
What fuckups?
Co-governance, AKA destruction of democracy by stealth. Plus several more but
that one is sufficient.
What Co-governance happened during the years of Labour-led government,
Tony? You are possibly thinking of some of the settlements under
National and Chris Finlayson. What destruction of democracy? Did you
vote in the election that resulted in the NAct1st government that we
now have? So no you didn't even get to the start line for identifying
any fuckups - or are you claiming that it is all John Keys fault?
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Co-governance have little or nothing to do with resource consenting
process for new housing - at least in most Councils. Why did you think
Co-governance is at all relevant? I don't recall the Minister
referring to that issue? Are you trying to distract from the real
problems with the recent announcements?
There are no problems, you have identified none.
I have identified a problem with local authorities having to increase
rates for 3 Waters, and now you seem to want further increases in
rates to subsidise developers - I did not invent those problems, they
are all NAct1st!
Post by Tony-read it and try to understand - I used short words just for you.
Post by Rich80105Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by GordonPost by Rich80105National is not just making a lot of people redundant, many businesses
are failing, fear of known cost increases and higher interest rates is
keeping many New Zealanders from spending or taking loans; many retail
businesses are failing - this government is frittering its time away
by telling teachers how to teach, by dropping local authorities in
huge holes with no way out, tightening rules for bank lending, not
being prepared to pay what is needed to keep GPs working (many are
retiring or moving), not able to recruit for hospitals. losing police
to Australia, etc. etc.
We need to accept that the previous Goverment spent up large, and there is
now none left. Without money spending is difficult while dealing with
reality.
Why would we accept something that is blatantly untrue?
And there we see you real response Tony - when you don't like the
answer you just spray and walk away. Just watch where you sit, Tony -
the wet patch may stain . . .