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Rich80105
2024-12-18 20:56:53 UTC
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2024-12-18 23:51:54 UTC
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Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Rich80105
2024-12-19 02:24:52 UTC
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Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
Tony
2024-12-19 02:41:45 UTC
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Post by Tony
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https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
Rich80105
2024-12-19 20:03:22 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
Tony
2024-12-19 20:17:24 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones. I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
Rich80105
2024-12-19 21:00:09 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones. I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Tony
2024-12-19 21:46:05 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:17:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones. I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Please, oh please do get some English comprehension lessons.
At no stage did I suggest that every minister cared nothing at all. I am sure
that Ardern, for instance, cared about how much she earned, or about what her
future was going to be when she got booted out. Just a simple example, there
are many more.
For your benefit let me repeat what I wrote. Sorry about the long words, I know
they challenge you.
"I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones."
Rich80105
2024-12-19 23:09:41 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:17:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones. I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Please, oh please do get some English comprehension lessons.
At no stage did I suggest that every minister cared nothing at all. I am sure
that Ardern, for instance, cared about how much she earned, or about what her
future was going to be when she got booted out. Just a simple example, there
are many more.
For your benefit let me repeat what I wrote. Sorry about the long words, I know
they challenge you.
"I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones."
That is an unsupported assertion from you Tony. Not really meaningful
either, but I do not expect more from you.
Tony
2024-12-19 23:41:17 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 21:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:17:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones. I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Please, oh please do get some English comprehension lessons.
At no stage did I suggest that every minister cared nothing at all. I am sure
that Ardern, for instance, cared about how much she earned, or about what her
future was going to be when she got booted out. Just a simple example, there
are many more.
For your benefit let me repeat what I wrote. Sorry about the long words, I know
they challenge you.
"I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones."
That is an unsupported assertion from you Tony. Not really meaningful
either, but I do not expect more from you.
No more of an unsupported assertion than everything you have written in this
and most other threads.
At least you managed to crawl bak on topic.
Rich80105
2024-12-20 03:36:41 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 21:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:17:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares, and any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more than the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones. I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Please, oh please do get some English comprehension lessons.
At no stage did I suggest that every minister cared nothing at all. I am sure
that Ardern, for instance, cared about how much she earned, or about what her
future was going to be when she got booted out. Just a simple example, there
are many more.
For your benefit let me repeat what I wrote. Sorry about the long words, I know
they challenge you.
"I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones."
That is an unsupported assertion from you Tony. Not really meaningful
either, but I do not expect more from you.
No more of an unsupported assertion than everything you have written in this
and most other threads.
At least you managed to crawl bak on topic.
Perhaps you are referring to the glimmer of light from one Minister
enjoying a thank you baccy from Benson and Hedges, or a grateful PM
making tax free profits on selling two of his fairly recently
purchased houses . . .
Caring for voters is not quite the same as caring for political donors
or your own personal wealth ambitions . . .
It was telling that no other government politician was with Erica
Stanford when she was announcing that the government would actually
make offers of compensation for torture victims at Lake Alice - as the
article says "Was it the strange, pervasive sense that this was an
initiative being directed by a Minister who maybe actually cared about
the issue and the citizens she was working on behalf of?"... "and for
the first time in over a year, it felt like someone was standing up
there actually gave a damn about anyone other than themselves."
Tony
2024-12-20 03:55:25 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 23:41:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 21:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:17:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares,
and
any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more
than
the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last
ones.
I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Please, oh please do get some English comprehension lessons.
At no stage did I suggest that every minister cared nothing at all. I am sure
that Ardern, for instance, cared about how much she earned, or about what her
future was going to be when she got booted out. Just a simple example, there
are many more.
For your benefit let me repeat what I wrote. Sorry about the long words, I know
they challenge you.
"I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones."
That is an unsupported assertion from you Tony. Not really meaningful
either, but I do not expect more from you.
No more of an unsupported assertion than everything you have written in this
and most other threads.
At least you managed to crawl bak on topic.
Perhaps you are referring to the glimmer of light from one Minister
enjoying a thank you baccy from Benson and Hedges, or a grateful PM
making tax free profits on selling two of his fairly recently
purchased houses . . .
Completel;y off topic, why do you bother with such garbage.
Post by Rich80105
Caring for voters is not quite the same as caring for political donors
or your own personal wealth ambitions . . .
Speak for yourself. You have no idea what I care about except honesty which is
why I despise you and everything you stand for.
Post by Rich80105
It was telling that no other government politician was with Erica
Stanford when she was announcing that the government would actually
make offers of compensation for torture victims at Lake Alice - as the
article says "Was it the strange, pervasive sense that this was an
initiative being directed by a Minister who maybe actually cared about
the issue and the citizens she was working on behalf of?"... "and for
the first time in over a year, it felt like someone was standing up
there actually gave a damn about anyone other than themselves."
Still off topic.
I answered your silly post and you have not addressed what I wrote at all. get
back on topic or get lost.
Rich80105
2024-12-20 04:44:43 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 23:41:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 21:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:17:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares,
and
any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you
have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not the case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more
than
the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a more caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last
ones.
I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Please, oh please do get some English comprehension lessons.
At no stage did I suggest that every minister cared nothing at all. I am sure
that Ardern, for instance, cared about how much she earned, or about what her
future was going to be when she got booted out. Just a simple example, there
are many more.
For your benefit let me repeat what I wrote. Sorry about the long words, I know
they challenge you.
"I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones."
That is an unsupported assertion from you Tony. Not really meaningful
either, but I do not expect more from you.
No more of an unsupported assertion than everything you have written in this
and most other threads.
At least you managed to crawl bak on topic.
Perhaps you are referring to the glimmer of light from one Minister
enjoying a thank you baccy from Benson and Hedges, or a grateful PM
making tax free profits on selling two of his fairly recently
purchased houses . . .
Completel;y off topic, why do you bother with such garbage.
No, the topic is about your claim that the Ministers in the current
government care, and I agree with you - this Minister cared enough to
arrange a tax benefit of around $60 million - largely to one tobacco
company - that is just one example of a Minister in this government
caring . . .
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Caring for voters is not quite the same as caring for political donors
or your own personal wealth ambitions . . .
Speak for yourself. You have no idea what I care about except honesty which is
why I despise you and everything you stand for.
I was giving an example that supported your statement that the
Ministers in the current government care - do you disagree with that
example?
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
It was telling that no other government politician was with Erica
Stanford when she was announcing that the government would actually
make offers of compensation for torture victims at Lake Alice - as the
article says "Was it the strange, pervasive sense that this was an
initiative being directed by a Minister who maybe actually cared about
the issue and the citizens she was working on behalf of?"... "and for
the first time in over a year, it felt like someone was standing up
there actually gave a damn about anyone other than themselves."
Still off topic.
No you are wrong - this was a Minister offering money to people that
had been wronged under a previous New Zealand Government - you may
disagree with the amount being offered, or other related aspects, but
she was doing her job on behalf of New Zealanders - are you trying to
say that this is nothing to do with Ministers under this government
being caring?
Post by Tony
I answered your silly post and you have not addressed what I wrote at all. get
back on topic or get lost.
Totally on topic, Tony. I am surprised that you appear to be arguing
against your own statement that Ministers in this Government do care.
Tony
2024-12-20 06:14:26 UTC
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Post by Tony
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:51:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://sapphia.substack.com/p/an-unusual-sort-of-press-conference
Stanford is one ef several ministers in this government that cares,
and
any
unbiased observer would understand that.
All of the Ministers in the current government, and probably previous
governments care about some things, Tony, what sets this Minister
apart from others in the current government is what she appears to
believe in.
I disagree. I have made my opinion clear.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
However you never post unbiased observations so this tripe is all you
have.
Finding the good in others is an attribute that may not be familiar to
you, Tony. Do you disagree with my conclusion that the article shows a
glimmer of light?
More abuse from the fool that calls himself Rich, that's rich eh?
A glimmer implies that it is something unusual, that is simply not
the
case.
Many of our current ministers care a great deal, certainly many more
than
the
last government. Not hard you might say but hey, at least it is a
more
caring
government.
As I said, Tony, all of the Ministers in the current government, and
probably previous governments care about some things. Do you not
believe that?
And as I said this government has more caring ministers than the last
ones.
I
am sure that you agree, thinking people really have no choice. Right?
So name any Minister of any recent Government that you do not think
cared about something . . .
Please, oh please do get some English comprehension lessons.
At no stage did I suggest that every minister cared nothing at all. I am sure
that Ardern, for instance, cared about how much she earned, or about what her
future was going to be when she got booted out. Just a simple example, there
are many more.
For your benefit let me repeat what I wrote. Sorry about the long words,
I
know
they challenge you.
"I said this government has more caring ministers than the last ones."
That is an unsupported assertion from you Tony. Not really meaningful
either, but I do not expect more from you.
No more of an unsupported assertion than everything you have written in this
and most other threads.
At least you managed to crawl bak on topic.
Perhaps you are referring to the glimmer of light from one Minister
enjoying a thank you baccy from Benson and Hedges, or a grateful PM
making tax free profits on selling two of his fairly recently
purchased houses . . .
Completel;y off topic, why do you bother with such garbage.
No, the topic is about your claim that the Ministers in the current
government care,
No it is not. It is about the original post that you made. Now get back on
topic or piss off.
Post by Rich80105
and I agree with you
Abusive sarcasm removed. Get a life little sociopath.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Caring for voters is not quite the same as caring for political donors
or your own personal wealth ambitions . . .
Speak for yourself. You have no idea what I care about except honesty which is
why I despise you and everything you stand for.
I was giving an example that supported your statement that the
Ministers in the current government care - do you disagree with that
example?
They care more than the last government - that was my statement.
The last government ministers almost every one were inept and uncaring. They
were racist and greedy. Useless the lot of them.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
It was telling that no other government politician was with Erica
Stanford when she was announcing that the government would actually
make offers of compensation for torture victims at Lake Alice - as the
article says "Was it the strange, pervasive sense that this was an
initiative being directed by a Minister who maybe actually cared about
the issue and the citizens she was working on behalf of?"... "and for
the first time in over a year, it felt like someone was standing up
there actually gave a damn about anyone other than themselves."
Still off topic.
No you are wrong - this was a Minister offering money to people that
had been wronged under a previous New Zealand Government - you may
disagree with the amount being offered, or other related aspects, but
she was doing her job on behalf of New Zealanders - are you trying to
say that this is nothing to do with Ministers under this government
being caring?
No I am correct, you are lying again.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
I answered your silly post and you have not addressed what I wrote at all. get
back on topic or get lost.
Totally on topic, Tony. I am surprised that you appear to be arguing
against your own statement that Ministers in this Government do care.
I did nothing of the sort, you are a sociopath. Get some help.

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