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Sadly, racism still exists and is denied . . .
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Rich80105
2024-12-09 03:52:12 UTC
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Gordon
2024-12-09 07:25:01 UTC
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Taking the case of the care home. I would argue that this is ageism at work,
not racism, although there is no indication one way or the other from the
article. It is the author's perception which is racist.

The rest home should have started the couple's meal first to increase the
chances that they (the couple) would be finished in a reasonable time. That
and a gentle reminder that it is not an all day dinner.

The queue example is likewise no indication that one of the students
suggestions was not correct.

There is also the case that many of shops have a wide counter which makes
it difficult to know who needs serving first. Supermarkets "herd" you into a
line which makes things easier.

Being there on site would have helped.

The point is that this is not a perfect world and one can expect the odd
mistake. Sure call out queue jump politely and move on with you day. At the
end of the day treating the other person as human is going to get you better
results than the alternative.
Rich80105
2024-12-09 19:43:19 UTC
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Taking the case of the care home. I would argue that this is ageism at work,
not racism, although there is no indication one way or the other from the
article. It is the author's perception which is racist.
The rest home should have started the couple's meal first to increase the
chances that they (the couple) would be finished in a reasonable time. That
and a gentle reminder that it is not an all day dinner.
The queue example is likewise no indication that one of the students
suggestions was not correct.
There is also the case that many of shops have a wide counter which makes
it difficult to know who needs serving first. Supermarkets "herd" you into a
line which makes things easier.
Being there on site would have helped.
The point is that this is not a perfect world and one can expect the odd
mistake. Sure call out queue jump politely and move on with you day. At the
end of the day treating the other person as human is going to get you better
results than the alternative.
You may of course be absolutely right - but on the other hand: "In my
early days of teaching adults, I delivered a Treaty workshop to a
group of counselling students. Every time I tried to use an experience
from my own life, a student attempted to rationalise and explain the
behaviour away."

Sometimes racism and prejudice are real, and most New Zealanders have
seen it; but yes there are some that will see efficiency in a care
home as more important than family connections and compassion . . .
Tony
2024-12-10 00:10:54 UTC
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Taking the case of the care home. I would argue that this is ageism at work,
not racism, although there is no indication one way or the other from the
article. It is the author's perception which is racist.
The rest home should have started the couple's meal first to increase the
chances that they (the couple) would be finished in a reasonable time. That
and a gentle reminder that it is not an all day dinner.
The queue example is likewise no indication that one of the students
suggestions was not correct.
There is also the case that many of shops have a wide counter which makes
it difficult to know who needs serving first. Supermarkets "herd" you into a
line which makes things easier.
Being there on site would have helped.
The point is that this is not a perfect world and one can expect the odd
mistake. Sure call out queue jump politely and move on with you day. At the
end of the day treating the other person as human is going to get you better
results than the alternative.
You may of course be absolutely right - but on the other hand: "In my
early days of teaching adults, I delivered a Treaty workshop to a
group of counselling students. Every time I tried to use an experience
from my own life, a student attempted to rationalise and explain the
behaviour away."
Sometimes racism and prejudice are real, and most New Zealanders have
seen it; but yes there are some that will see efficiency in a care
home as more important than family connections and compassion . . .
Yes racism and prejudice are very real. And common in our society.
I live in a town which has large Maori and other non-European communities and I
see racism less here than in other communities. It is also two way, TPM for
instance are racist to the core as are some rare right wing people I
occasionally come across.

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