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Gordon
2024-12-12 04:09:41 UTC
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Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.

Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Rich80105
2024-12-12 08:03:00 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.
This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.
This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.
Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
here is one link:


He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
low prices for electricity; instead we are handing out excessive
profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
government building social housing as soon as they can after being
elected ...

Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
favourable tax treatment . . .
Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.

But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
upset and blame.

The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia

Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
Tony
2024-12-12 08:20:54 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.
This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.
This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.
Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
today?
Post by Rich80105
http://youtu.be/VHtAHw1u15g
He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
low prices for electricity
Why? Do tell.
Post by Rich80105
; instead we are handing out excessive
profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
government building social housing as soon as they can after being
elected ...
No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
Post by Rich80105
Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
favourable tax treatment . . .
Another lie. Landlords are in business.
Post by Rich80105
Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
Nope, you government did that.
Post by Rich80105
But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
upset and blame.
Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
Post by Rich80105
The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
Nonsense.
Post by Rich80105
Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .
So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?
Rich80105
2024-12-12 20:41:47 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.
This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.
This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.
Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
today?
I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
http://youtu.be/VHtAHw1u15g
He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
low prices for electricity
Why? Do tell.
Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind
generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
; instead we are handing out excessive
profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
government building social housing as soon as they can after being
elected ...
No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
favourable tax treatment . . .
Another lie. Landlords are in business.
Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a
political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
now easier evictions.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
Nope, you government did that.
The current government is continuing to do that.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
upset and blame.
Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
your hero Trump works . . .
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
Nonsense.
Post by Rich80105
Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .
So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?
Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
ever hold down a job, Tony?
Tony
2024-12-12 21:18:34 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.
This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.
This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.
Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
today?
I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.
You have no ability to help anyone. Socopiaths never do.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
http://youtu.be/VHtAHw1u15g
He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
low prices for electricity
Why? Do tell.
Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind
generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .
No that is wrong, it was wrong last time you wrote it and it will be worng next
time. Wind and solar are in their infancy despite what you might hope is true.
The problems are serious and are yet to be resolved. Look back here for
education on that issue.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
; instead we are handing out excessive
profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
government building social housing as soon as they can after being
elected ...
No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.
Wrong again. Right is an absolute. It has never been reelative and never can
be.
Get some English help.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
favourable tax treatment . . .
Another lie. Landlords are in business.
Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a
political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
now easier evictions.
As I wrote, that is not correct, it is a lie.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
Nope, you government did that.
The current government is continuing to do that.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
upset and blame.
Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
your hero Trump works . . .
Trump is your hero, I hate the man but you think it annoys me when you tell
that lie. Wrong again little man.
The proof is clear to all who look. TPM are racist and so are you.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
Nonsense.
Post by Rich80105
Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .
So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?
Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
ever hold down a job, Tony?
There he is - the abusive little Rich who has never risen above assistant clerk
in an obscure government department. Wasted his life failing to achieve
political significancve and now resorts to abusing those who have achieved a
lot. Wow - what a frailure you are.
Rich80105
2024-12-13 01:02:48 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.
This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.
This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.
Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
today?
I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.
You have no ability to help anyone. Socopiaths never do.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
http://youtu.be/VHtAHw1u15g
He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
low prices for electricity
Why? Do tell.
Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind
generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .
No that is wrong, it was wrong last time you wrote it and it will be worng next
time. Wind and solar are in their infancy despite what you might hope is true.
The problems are serious and are yet to be resolved. Look back here for
education on that issue.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
; instead we are handing out excessive
profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
government building social housing as soon as they can after being
elected ...
No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.
Wrong again. Right is an absolute. It has never been reelative and never can
be.
Get some English help.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
favourable tax treatment . . .
Another lie. Landlords are in business.
Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a
political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
now easier evictions.
As I wrote, that is not correct, it is a lie.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
Nope, you government did that.
The current government is continuing to do that.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
upset and blame.
Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
your hero Trump works . . .
Trump is your hero, I hate the man but you think it annoys me when you tell
that lie. Wrong again little man.
The proof is clear to all who look. TPM are racist and so are you.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
Nonsense.
Post by Rich80105
Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .
So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?
Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
ever hold down a job, Tony?
There he is - the abusive little Rich who has never risen above assistant clerk
in an obscure government department. Wasted his life failing to achieve
political significancve and now resorts to abusing those who have achieved a
lot. Wow - what a frailure you are.
I am sorry for you Tony, but you are possibly used feeling frail and
not understanding what other posters are saying; but clearly life is
getting much harder for you. My best wishes to you for the time ahead.
Tony
2024-12-13 01:39:56 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.
This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.
This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.
Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
today?
I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.
You have no ability to help anyone. Socopiaths never do.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
http://youtu.be/VHtAHw1u15g
He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
low prices for electricity
Why? Do tell.
Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind
generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .
No that is wrong, it was wrong last time you wrote it and it will be worng next
time. Wind and solar are in their infancy despite what you might hope is true.
The problems are serious and are yet to be resolved. Look back here for
education on that issue.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
; instead we are handing out excessive
profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
government building social housing as soon as they can after being
elected ...
No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.
Wrong again. Right is an absolute. It has never been reelative and never can
be.
Get some English help.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
favourable tax treatment . . .
Another lie. Landlords are in business.
Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a
political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
now easier evictions.
As I wrote, that is not correct, it is a lie.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
Nope, you government did that.
The current government is continuing to do that.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
upset and blame.
Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
your hero Trump works . . .
Trump is your hero, I hate the man but you think it annoys me when you tell
that lie. Wrong again little man.
The proof is clear to all who look. TPM are racist and so are you.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
Nonsense.
Post by Rich80105
Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .
So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?
Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
ever hold down a job, Tony?
There he is - the abusive little Rich who has never risen above assistant clerk
in an obscure government department. Wasted his life failing to achieve
political significancve and now resorts to abusing those who have achieved a
lot. Wow - what a frailure you are.
I am sorry for you Tony, but you are possibly used feeling frail and
not understanding what other posters are saying; but clearly life is
getting much harder for you. My best wishes to you for the time ahead.
Just more sarcastic abuse from you.
It is common for the afflicted to think others are the problem. You are the
afflicted, you are the problem, you are the sociopath.
Gordon
2024-12-13 07:20:11 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.
This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.
This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
pages.
Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.
Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
today?
Post by Rich80105
http://youtu.be/VHtAHw1u15g
He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
low prices for electricity
Why? Do tell.
Post by Rich80105
; instead we are handing out excessive
profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
government building social housing as soon as they can after being
elected ...
No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
Post by Rich80105
Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
favourable tax treatment . . .
Another lie. Landlords are in business.
Post by Rich80105
Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
Nope, you government did that.
I seem to remember that the minimum wage was raised several times during the
Governments terms. Mind you this was set off by the inflation rate.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
upset and blame.
Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
Post by Rich80105
The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
Nonsense.
Post by Rich80105
Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .
So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?
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