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JohnO
2020-05-13 06:59:01 UTC
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Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a wet dream of unbridled power over our civil liberties:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547

And:

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database

And don't forget:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
John Bowes
2020-05-13 10:32:15 UTC
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same draconian attitude to governance :)
JohnO
2020-05-14 00:27:45 UTC
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government just passed:

https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/


"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about whether the powers are proportionate"

And we don't get to know if they are because our useless government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most open and transparent, eh?
James Christophers
2020-05-14 02:44:27 UTC
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same draconian attitude to governance :)
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being "disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and gulags.

Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
John Bowes
2020-05-14 04:20:43 UTC
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same draconian attitude to governance :)
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being "disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
George
2020-05-14 20:08:20 UTC
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On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
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Rich80105
2020-05-14 23:53:37 UTC
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Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
Rich80105
2020-05-14 23:57:16 UTC
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Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
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Rich80105
2020-05-15 00:37:26 UTC
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Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
John Bowes
2020-05-15 01:42:33 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
As always Rich you talk crap! Fess up it's what's left of your conscience speaking out at last :)
Tony
2020-05-15 03:36:40 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
Rich80105
2020-05-15 04:08:01 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
Tony
2020-05-15 04:14:01 UTC
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On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
Rich80105
2020-05-15 05:18:23 UTC
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On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
JohnO
2020-05-15 05:23:29 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
There's a John Bowes and there's a JohnO (me) but there's no JohnOBowes you deficient little amoeba.
Tony
2020-05-15 05:34:43 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
Post by JohnO
Post by JohnO
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Post by JohnO
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
There's a John Bowes and there's a JohnO (me) but there's no JohnOBowes you
deficient little amoeba.
Amoebas have a purpose JohnO.
Rich80105
2020-05-15 05:49:19 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:34:43 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
Post by JohnO
Post by JohnO
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Post by JohnO
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
There's a John Bowes and there's a JohnO (me) but there's no JohnOBowes you
deficient little amoeba.
Amoebas have a purpose JohnO.
Are you posting as Tony now John Bowes?
John Bowes
2020-05-16 07:25:12 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:34:43 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
Post by JohnO
Post by JohnO
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Post by JohnO
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
There's a John Bowes and there's a JohnO (me) but there's no JohnOBowes you
deficient little amoeba.
Amoebas have a purpose JohnO.
Are you posting as Tony now John Bowes?
Are you getting paid the correct rate for news group idiots Rich? Or are you just happy to make yourself look like a bigger fuckwit than usual? :)
Rich80105
2020-05-15 05:44:55 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
There's a John Bowes and there's a JohnO (me) but there's no JohnOBowes you deficient little amoeba.
So you are claiming that the three viruses are different - certainly
there is one who fraudulently uses Rich80105 which I post under, and
the three posting names you give are remarkeably similar in objecting
when given the same regard in posts that they show to other posters.
When all you have is contempt, there is little to distinguish and
demonstate that you are not all the same person - although Tony has
asserted that it is not him that is deliberately posting under my
posting name. Perhaps just referring to JOBo is sufficient - you could
pretend it is someone other than yourself . . .
John Bowes
2020-05-16 07:23:09 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by JohnO
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
There's a John Bowes and there's a JohnO (me) but there's no JohnOBowes you deficient little amoeba.
So you are claiming that the three viruses are different - certainly
there is one who fraudulently uses Rich80105 which I post under, and
the three posting names you give are remarkeably similar in objecting
when given the same regard in posts that they show to other posters.
When all you have is contempt, there is little to distinguish and
demonstate that you are not all the same person - although Tony has
asserted that it is not him that is deliberately posting under my
posting name. Perhaps just referring to JOBo is sufficient - you could
pretend it is someone other than yourself . . .
Rich80105 suffers from extreme paranoia. Much like all the idiots who believe that this time Marxism will get it right :)
John Bowes
2020-05-16 07:20:49 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
There's a John Bowes and there's a JohnO (me) but there's no JohnOBowes you deficient little amoeba.
He's just an attention seeking idiot JohnO. Not smart enough to comprehend it's probably Morrisy or some other fuckwit like rich.....
Tony
2020-05-15 05:33:45 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the evidence. And
that is you.
Rich80105
2020-05-15 05:48:20 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the evidence. And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
Tony
2020-05-15 06:55:27 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the evidence. And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
Rich80105
2020-05-15 07:24:27 UTC
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the evidence. And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
Tony
2020-05-15 07:31:19 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny.
Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the evidence. And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
This person that is impersonating you is really getting to you. Time to go back
on your mediacation perhaps.
Rich80105
2020-05-15 10:45:34 UTC
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 02:31:19 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny.
Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the evidence. And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
This person that is impersonating you is really getting to you. Time to go back
on your mediacation perhaps.
"Mediacation"? What are you on?
Tony
2020-05-15 20:37:40 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 02:31:19 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James
Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny.
Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start
being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door
before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding
themselves
as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that
JohnO
and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the
evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being
nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than
one
nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the
evidence.
And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
This person that is impersonating you is really getting to you. Time to go back
on your mediacation perhaps.
"Mediacation"? What are you on?
I tell you what, do you want me to pont out every time you make a mess of your
typing? I guarantee you do so significantyly more often and much worse than me.
Gee you are a childish shit are you not?
Rich80105
2020-05-15 22:30:38 UTC
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:37:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 02:31:19 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James
Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny.
Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start
being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door
before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect
for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world,
I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding
themselves
as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that
JohnO
and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the
evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being
nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than
one
nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the
evidence.
And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
This person that is impersonating you is really getting to you. Time to go back
on your mediacation perhaps.
"Mediacation"? What are you on?
I tell you what, do you want me to pont out every time you make a mess of your
typing? I guarantee you do so significantyly more often and much worse than me.
Gee you are a childish shit are you not?
I do apologise, Tony, I had temporarily forgotten that the prime
purpose of all your posts is to be nasty to others, and particularly
those who do not share your totalitarian views.
Tony
2020-05-15 23:24:47 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:37:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 02:31:19 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
On Fri, 15 May 2020 11:57:16 +1200, Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James
Christophers
Post by James Christophers
On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 22:32:16 UTC+12, John Bowes
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:59:02 PM UTC+12, JohnO
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers
no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the
government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid
scrutiny.
Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start
being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the
current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door
before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect
for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this
world,
I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody
would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding
themselves
as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with
some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with
your
nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that
JohnO
and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the
evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being
nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than
one
nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the
evidence.
And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
This person that is impersonating you is really getting to you. Time to go back
on your mediacation perhaps.
"Mediacation"? What are you on?
I tell you what, do you want me to pont out every time you make a mess of your
typing? I guarantee you do so significantyly more often and much worse than me.
Gee you are a childish shit are you not?
I do apologise, Tony, I had temporarily forgotten that the prime
purpose of all your posts is to be nasty to others, and particularly
those who do not share your totalitarian views.
Fact - you were nasty first
Fact - you were the one that diverted this thread from the subject
Fact - your history here is appalling and here you are again the first to be
abusive
John Bowes
2020-05-16 07:29:58 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:37:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 02:31:19 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James
Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny.
Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start
being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door
before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect
for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world,
I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding
themselves
as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with
some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your
nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that
JohnO
and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the
evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being
nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than
one
nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the
evidence.
And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
This person that is impersonating you is really getting to you. Time to go back
on your mediacation perhaps.
"Mediacation"? What are you on?
I tell you what, do you want me to pont out every time you make a mess of your
typing? I guarantee you do so significantyly more often and much worse than me.
Gee you are a childish shit are you not?
I do apologise, Tony, I had temporarily forgotten that the prime
purpose of all your posts is to be nasty to others, and particularly
those who do not share your totalitarian views.
BULLSHIT! You Rich are the only poster in this group who supports totalitarian government with your constant rewriting of political history in New Zealand.
John Bowes
2020-05-16 07:32:38 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:55:27 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:33:45 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:44:28 PM UTC+12, James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym
and
I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
using "Rich80105" that is not me, you and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
You idiot is perfect because only an idiot would fail to see the evidence. And
that is you.
You are correct, your assertion is not evidence that you are not the
person attempting to post under my posting name - are you saying I
should not accept your unsupported word on that?
No I am asserting that you are incapable of understanding what is really going
on here.
Hint - Look at the evidence.
If you can't follow that then feel free to go away.
I'll post whenver I want to, but you are getting boring with your
consistent posts that are off topic. Do post again if you can find
something worth posting, TonyOBowes
Once again an instruction from the totalitarian twat Rich that he'll never even try to follow :)
John Bowes
2020-05-16 07:19:19 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:14:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
top of list is me
You are a bit old to be a young Nat, JohnOBowes, but I guess with some
that sense of entitlement jus gets stronger . . .
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your nym and I
don't condone that for one moment but to use that to suggest that JohnO and
John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence
and you will see it is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty?
I believe there is only one person here that posts under more than one nym.
What other name do you post under, Tony?
I don't you idiot.
I'll take your word for that, but "you idiot" does seem to be the
extent of your reasoned argument. Certainly there is somone that is
usinf "Rich80105" that is not me, yu and JohnOBowes are as likely as
anyone.
Why would we do that Rich? To make you look like a fucking idiot? You do that without any help from anyone :)
George
2020-05-15 20:13:16 UTC
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On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
.
Post by Tony
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your
nym and I don't condone that for one moment but to use that to
suggest that JohnO and John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous.
Just look at all of the evidence and you will see it is a ridiculous
assumption, or are you just being nasty? I believe there is only one
person here that posts under more than one nym.
If he read the header if he knew what the header was if only he could
find the header he'd know who was him.
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Tony
2020-05-15 20:35:22 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500
.
Post by Tony
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your
nym and I don't condone that for one moment but to use that to
suggest that JohnO and John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous.
Just look at all of the evidence and you will see it is a ridiculous
assumption, or are you just being nasty? I believe there is only one
person here that posts under more than one nym.
If he read the header if he knew what the header was if only he could
find the header he'd know who was him.
There are more ifs about him than there are truths.
John Bowes
2020-05-16 07:31:25 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500
.
Post by Tony
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with your
nym and I don't condone that for one moment but to use that to
suggest that JohnO and John Bowes are the same people is ludicrous.
Just look at all of the evidence and you will see it is a ridiculous
assumption, or are you just being nasty? I believe there is only one
person here that posts under more than one nym.
If he read the header if he knew what the header was if only he could
find the header he'd know who was him.
--
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You're allowing Rich far more comprehension skills than the foolish widdle twat deserves George :)
George
2020-05-16 20:15:36 UTC
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On Sat, 16 May 2020 00:31:25 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500
.
Post by Tony
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with
your nym and I don't condone that for one moment but to use that
to suggest that JohnO and John Bowes are the same people is
ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence and you will see it
is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty? I
believe there is only one person here that posts under more than
one nym.
If he read the header if he knew what the header was if only he
could find the header he'd know who was him.
--
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You're allowing Rich far more comprehension skills than the foolish
widdle twat deserves George :)
It's very very basic.
Look at the headers.
Read the fucking headers.
Compare them to the queried message header.
Even a died (dyed) in the wool leftist should be capable of that
John Bowes
2020-05-16 21:45:39 UTC
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Post by George
On Sat, 16 May 2020 00:31:25 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:36:40 -0500
.
Post by Tony
And you are polain silly. Someone is playing silly buggers with
your nym and I don't condone that for one moment but to use that
to suggest that JohnO and John Bowes are the same people is
ludicrous. Just look at all of the evidence and you will see it
is a ridiculous assumption, or are you just being nasty? I
believe there is only one person here that posts under more than
one nym.
If he read the header if he knew what the header was if only he
could find the header he'd know who was him.
--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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You're allowing Rich far more comprehension skills than the foolish
widdle twat deserves George :)
It's very very basic.
Look at the headers.
Read the fucking headers.
Compare them to the queried message header.
Even a died (dyed) in the wool leftist should be capable of that
But not the village (ng) idiot. In him/her/it's book if it doesn't follow the party/s line or shows them as fools it can't happen, must be fake news. The problem isn't Richies politics it's just that he's just to bloody dumb to accept others points of view.
Willy Nilly
2020-05-17 01:33:57 UTC
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Post by George
It's very very basic.
Look at the headers.
Read the fucking headers.
Compare them to the queried message header.
Even a died (dyed) in the wool leftist should be capable of that
Don't worry, RB, your secret's safe with us.
Rich80105
2020-05-17 02:15:39 UTC
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Post by Willy Nilly
Post by George
It's very very basic.
Look at the headers.
Read the fucking headers.
Compare them to the queried message header.
Even a died (dyed) in the wool leftist should be capable of that
Don't worry, RB, your secret's safe with us.
yours is too
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John Bowes
2020-05-15 01:41:25 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
Bullshit! If any political group was top of the list it'd be young Labour/Green going by their history of showing respect for the law. After all no young Nats have ever admitted to benefit fraud or got up to sexual shenanigans at Nation youth camps :)
Rich80105
2020-05-15 04:06:18 UTC
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On Thu, 14 May 2020 18:41:25 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
Bullshit! If any political group was top of the list it'd be young Labour/Green going by their history of showing respect for the law. After all no young Nats have ever admitted to benefit fraud or got up to sexual shenanigans at Nation youth camps :)
Of course no Young Nat would ever admit to any wrong-doing -
"plausible deniability" is one of the first National lessons for
anyone associated with the party!. Young Nats spend a lot of time in
pubs as well, so whetever happens in a pub is nothing to do with a
Young Nat meetings . . . .

And finally nobody can ever do wrong as far as National is concerned
unless they have been found guilty in a court, (in which case they
leave the party until the fuss dies down) or unless they have nothig
to do with the party in which case other rules apply . . .

So you are absolutely "Right," JohnOBowes - or are you going to be
"John Smith" on a few forms - tough when recovering from a bender
feels a bit like Covid-19 symptoms, is it?
Rich80105
2020-05-16 02:01:08 UTC
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Post by George
On Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
Bullshit! If any political group was top of the list it'd be young Labour/Green going by their history of showing respect for the law. After all no young Nats have ever admitted to benefit fraud or got up to sexual shenanigans at Nation youth camps :)
Sorry john
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2020-05-16 04:03:33 UTC
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Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
Bullshit! If any political group was top of the list it'd be young Labour/Green going by their history of showing respect for the law. After all no young Nats have ever admitted to benefit fraud or got up to sexual shenanigans at Nation youth camps :)
Sorry john
More usenet posting fraud - a lying poster using someone elses posting
name.
Rich80105
2020-05-16 04:35:31 UTC
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Post by George
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Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by John Bowes
Post by JohnO
Enabled and encouraged by a government of lefties living a
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same
draconian attitude to governance :)
I see the Human Rights Commission, bastion of right wingers no
doubt, is "deeply concerned" by the legislation the government
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil
liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about
whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless
government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most
open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being
"disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and
gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current
government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your
thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
Or yours is from an open and enquiring mind Keith....
When you go shopping now they want your identity at the door before
entry...
Theres going to be a lot of John Smiths out there...
Leaving out your good self, George, with your well known respect for
laws, and leaving out also the Aaron Gilmore types in this world, I
guess top of the list would be Young Nats. I am sure nobody would
wish them the potential result of such people regartding themselves as
above the law of catching Covid-19 . . .
Bullshit! If any political group was top of the list it'd be young Labour/Green going by their history of showing respect for the law. After all no young Nats have ever admitted to benefit fraud or got up to sexual shenanigans at Nation youth camps :)
Sorry john
More usenet posting fraud - a lying poster using someone elses posting
name.
you are doing that
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2020-05-14 04:27:52 UTC
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12331547
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/2020/05/13/1170954/concerns-over-police-use-of-illegal-facial-recognition-database
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330349
Some of that government are right whingers with the same draconian attitude to governance :)
https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/human-rights-commission-deeply-concerned-about-covid-19-public-health-response-bill/
"However, given that the legislation encroaches on the civil liberties of New Zealanders we have serious concerns about whether the powers are proportionate"
And we don't get to know if they are because our useless government rushed the legislation through to avoid scrutiny. Most open and transparent, eh?
The time for you to worry will be when New Zealanders start being "disappeared", along with shadowy whispers of salt mines and gulags.
Until then, rest easy in the certain knowledge that the current government is about as distant from totalitarianism as your thinking is from Martin Luther King's.
I saw a discussion on Facebook, so it must be true . . ..

Apparently our loyal opposition was pointing out that our existing
legislation was not sufficient to make restrictions imposed by
government legal, which meant that they didn't all need to be complied
with. The government has implied that changes to the law were required
for the coming period where doubts had been cast on whether the risk
remains sufficiently high to justify provisions under current law, so
laws were drafted and put through, but now much the same people are
saying that the new laws are draconian and an encroachment on civil
liberties, bt at the same time are saying that there is nothing in the
new laws that was not there already in the Health Act. I think all it
shows is that I need to stop reading facebook and start listening to
Mike Hoskings . . .

So while everyone is getting excited about draconian measures now that
Covid is no longer really a problem, I also found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fxoxti/coronavirus_deaths_vs_other_epidemics_from_day_of/
JohnO
2020-05-14 09:13:51 UTC
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Keith, if you think we don't have to worry *until* people are disappeared you are a fool.

The time to worry is before it happens. No point in worrying once it happens. That is too late

Expected better from you.
John Bowes
2020-05-14 11:22:20 UTC
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Keith, if you think we don't have to worry *until* people are disappeared you are a fool.
The time to worry is before it happens. No point in worrying once it happens. That is too late
Expected better from you.
Adolfs merry band started by taking firearms from the people. Only after that did they put them in "resettlement camps". The Marxists around the world call them re education camps......
James Christophers
2020-05-15 02:28:31 UTC
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Keith, if you think we don't have to worry *until* people are disappeared you are a fool.
"Project Fear", anyone?
Post by JohnO
The time to worry is before it happens. No point in worrying once it happens. That is too late.
A clinical condition termed, 'nervous prostration".
Post by JohnO
Expected better from you.
Oh really? Then how about The Land of the Free under Trump just now, where his brute determination to rule solely by one-man Executive Order has been kept at arm's length only by the shaky determination of **his own toadying Republicans** who have, Thank God, the wit to understand the terrible ramifications of his ever being allowed to get away with it.

This is totalitarianism in the making, an overt attempt to subvert and usurp the Constitiution of the United States to satisfy a narcissistic and delusional lunatic. You need only ally Trump's madness to America's long-since self-ascribed exceptionalism to know you have the world's most dangerous country and president.

So, to gain some genuinely useful sense of proportion and perspective, try working and living for many years in autocratic and totalitarian countries, knowing and witnessing and engaging face-to-face with the kinds of people and events as I have.

One of these appointments was to a truly massive 18 month project **inside** the Saudi-Arabian National Guard (الحَرَس الوَطنيّ). Google it to find out exactly the nature of its role then and now in the governing of that country.
JohnO
2020-05-15 02:41:02 UTC
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Keith, if you think we don't have to worry *until* people are disappeared you are a fool.
"Project Fear", anyone?
Post by JohnO
The time to worry is before it happens. No point in worrying once it happens. That is too late.
A clinical condition termed, 'nervous prostration".
Post by JohnO
Expected better from you.
Oh really? Then how about The Land of the Free under Trump just now, where his brute determination to rule solely by one-man Executive Order has been kept at arm's length only by the shaky determination of **his own toadying Republicans** who have, Thank God, the wit to understand the terrible ramifications of his ever being allowed to get away with it.
This is totalitarianism in the making, an overt attempt to subvert and usurp the Constitiution of the United States to satisfy a narcissistic and delusional lunatic. You need only ally Trump's madness to America's long-since self-ascribed exceptionalism to know you have the world's most dangerous country and president.
So, to gain some genuinely useful sense of proportion and perspective, try working and living for many years in autocratic and totalitarian countries, knowing and witnessing and engaging face-to-face with the kinds of people and events as I have.
One of these appointments was to a truly massive 18 month project **inside** the Saudi-Arabian National Guard (الحَرَس الوَطنيّ). Google it to find out exactly the nature of its role then and now in the governing of that country.
We're not talking about Trump's America. Your diversion attempt is lame.
James Christophers
2020-05-16 03:24:05 UTC
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Keith, if you think we don't have to worry *until* people are disappeared you are a fool.
"Project Fear", anyone?
Post by JohnO
The time to worry is before it happens. No point in worrying once it happens. That is too late.
A clinical condition termed, 'nervous prostration".
Post by JohnO
Expected better from you.
Oh really? Then how about The Land of the Free under Trump just now, where his brute determination to rule solely by one-man Executive Order has been kept at arm's length only by the shaky determination of **his own toadying Republicans** who have, Thank God, the wit to understand the terrible ramifications of his ever being allowed to get away with it.
This is totalitarianism in the making, an overt attempt to subvert and usurp the Constititution of the United States to satisfy a narcissistic and delusional lunatic. You need only ally Trump's madness to America's long-since self-ascribed exceptionalism to know you have the world's most dangerous country and president.
So, to gain some genuinely useful sense of proportion and perspective, try working and living for many years in autocratic and totalitarian countries, knowing and witnessing and engaging face-to-face with the kinds of people and events as I have.
One of these appointments was to a truly massive 18 month project **inside** the Saudi-Arabian National Guard (الحَرَس الوَطنيّ). Google it to find out exactly the nature of its role then and now in the governing of that country.
We're not talking about Trump's America.
But I am and in the context of your topic which is suggestive of a possible threat to democratic freedom in New Zealand).

I then give you a straight on comparative example of such a clear and present **actual** threat right up there in lights and now being imposed by the POTUS not just on the **democratic** US - “the greatest democracy on earth” if you please - but potentially on the world at large.

If nothing else, it gives a whole new meaning to the authoritarian, totalitarian “Democratic Republic of XXX”, doesn’t it?
Post by JohnO
Your diversion attempt is lame.
So you say.

Further, to know authoritarianism, totalitarianism, patronage and graft for what they really are is to have known them first-hand over days, weeks and months 24/7; you can feel them, smell them, see them - almost touch them. They are both subliminal and omni-present at one and the same time, pervasive, instinctive and visceral.

Only when you get out from under it all, do you find you’ve come to know vastly more about the **true** real world and so have come to appreciate all the more the values of Freedom - including that of both the spirit and the soul - for what they truly are.

I know whereof I speak.

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