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Harawiras - bullying, manipulative behaviour runs in the family
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A _L_ P
2009-11-10 21:19:37 UTC
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CARRINGTON HOSPITAL MAORI UNIT - TITEWHAI HARAWIRA
Mrs Titewhai Harawira of the Carrington Hospital Maori Unit speaks about
her suspension from the un...

KAUMATUA BANNED FROM VISITING PAREMOREMO Henare Sutherland, Potaka
Dewes, Donna Awatere, Titewhai Harawira, Craven Tane and Peter Love are
th.... Read More

CHARGES AGAINST TITEWHAI HARAWIRA Peter Kingston details the charges
against the Head of the Carrington Maori unit Titewhai Harawiri. Read More

TRIAL OF TITEWHAI HARAWIRA Nick Hirst reports from the Auckland District
Court of the evidence given by a health worker from Ca... Read More

AUCKLAND HOSPITAL BOARD MEETING DISRUPTED BY MAORI ACTIVISTS Claire
Watson reports on the incident at the Auckland Hospital Board meeting
involving Maori activis... Read More

And then - illustrating characteristics that we are seeing clearly now
in Hone Harawira - "The taming of Titewhai Harawira"
By Michele Hewitson at
www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=889385&pnum=0

Excerpt: "How things have changed. At least I am sincerely hoping they
have. The abiding memory of that earlier visit is of standing in this
garage for what seemed a very long time, waiting for Mrs Harawira to
receive me, while two large dogs circled my legs sniffing and making
ominous little noises in the back of their throats.

When this time I asked, finally (I didn't want her to produce them),
where they were, she said, sadly: "They're dead."

Then, bossily, "Don't talk about it." And, "I've got a rabbit now. It'll
bite you."

Which was said gaily, in a bonkers sort of way. This was a joke. But I
didn't ask to see it because I figured that if there is such a thing as
an attack rabbit, Titewhai Harawira would own it.

Most people you speak to (although she says she has had nothing but
positive feedback) are, at the very least, perplexed that the mean,
dog-owning radical has somehow become the fluffy, rabbit-owning kuia who
escorts Prime Ministers on to marae.

It is, if nothing else, an astonishing feat to have achieved at least
the illusion of respectability. Respectability is her word. It is not
one that immediately leaps to mind. "I have earned a lot of
respectability by not compromising. And that respect has been with our
own people. The authorities haven't always appreciated the hard line."

You can say that again. Because in the background of every conversation
with Mrs Harawira - and she is as aware of it as anyone - are the ghouls
of her past. Not least her 1989 conviction for assaulting a psychiatric
patient.

She says, emphatically, that she regrets nothing in her past - "No.
Nothing." If other people can't get over it, well "that's fine. I can
accept that. But I would like people to also put up their hands and say
they may have been wrong".

The remarkable thing (or one of them) about Mrs Harawira is that she,
who has never put up her hand and said she was wrong, has obtained a
sort of aura of authority - now seemingly accepted by authority. The
machinations behind the Waitangi Day scenes must have been fascinating. "


A L P
David
2009-11-14 23:46:04 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...

tryin' the change the system , if not the world...

it goes with the territory....

now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
A _L_ P
2009-11-15 00:23:13 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?

A L P
Sue Bilstein
2009-11-15 01:17:33 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other after. Read
More. CONVICTED ...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
Apparently, that beating up nutters counts as community service.
bubba ray
2009-11-15 01:21:47 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point.  What is it?
Apparently, that beating up nutters counts as community service.
Or trying to "change the world"
David
2009-11-15 01:22:42 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other after. Read
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point.  What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.

The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.

If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
A _L_ P
2009-11-15 01:50:14 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other after. Read
More. CONVICTED ...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content.... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
That's terrible! Some miserable ratbag who "pimped on her" had the
effrontery to object to her beating up an *alleged* sex offender, now
that's truly unreasonable behaviour and it's no wonder her son still
bears a grudge against NZers and feels entitled to take advantage of
whatever rorts her things he can get away with.

A L P
David
2009-11-15 02:25:27 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other after. Read
More. CONVICTED ...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content.... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point.  What is it?
A L P
 Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
That's terrible!  Some miserable ratbag who "pimped on her" had the
effrontery to object to her beating up an *alleged* sex offender, now
that's truly unreasonable behaviour and it's no wonder her son still
bears a grudge against NZers and feels entitled to take advantage of
whatever rorts her things he can get away with.
A L P
Whare Paea was not a rort... the whanau around the Harawiras has a
well developed
victim mentality, for a very good reason, in my opinion...
bubba ray
2009-11-15 06:13:29 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other after. Read
More. CONVICTED ...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content.... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point.  What is it?
A L P
 Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
That's terrible!  Some miserable ratbag who "pimped on her" had the
effrontery to object to her beating up an *alleged* sex offender, now
that's truly unreasonable behaviour and it's no wonder her son still
bears a grudge against NZers and feels entitled to take advantage of
whatever rorts her things he can get away with.
A L P
Whare Paea was not a rort... the whanau around the Harawiras has a
well developed
victim mentality, for a very good reason, in my opinion...
Yes, being a racist sociopath with a big chip on your shoulder does
help give one a well developed victim mentality ...
A _L_ P
2009-11-15 02:37:02 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about the
verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other after. Read
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
That's terrible! Some miserable ratbag who "pimped on her" had the
effrontery to object to her beating up an *alleged* sex offender, now
that's truly unreasonable behaviour and it's no wonder her son still
bears a grudge against NZers and feels entitled to take advantage of
whatever rorts her things he can get away with.
A L P
Whare Paea was not a rort... the whanau around the Harawiras has a
well developed
victim mentality, for a very good reason, in my opinion...
Yep, it seems to work for them :-/
Justifies whatever they feel like doing......

A L P
Petito
2009-11-17 20:50:41 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read
More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content.... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
That's terrible! Some miserable ratbag who "pimped on her" had the
effrontery to object to her beating up an *alleged* sex offender, now
that's truly unreasonable behaviour and it's no wonder her son still
bears a grudge against NZers and feels entitled to take advantage of
whatever rorts her things he can get away with.
A L P
Whare Paea was not a rort... the whanau around the Harawiras has a
well developed
victim mentality, for a very good reason, in my opinion...
It was a torture house.


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Petito
2009-11-17 20:49:50 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content.... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
That's terrible! Some miserable ratbag who "pimped on her" had the
effrontery to object to her beating up an *alleged* sex offender, now
that's truly unreasonable behaviour and it's no wonder her son still
bears a grudge against NZers and feels entitled to take advantage of
whatever rorts her things he can get away with.
A L P
He wasn't the only one they were beating up, they were also tying up and
beating schizophrenics and then claiming they were using Maori medicine to
rid them of their demons.
Then there are the ones they tied to their beds etc........


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Petito
2009-11-17 20:48:00 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read
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...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
What a load of BS. You clearly have no knowledge of the facts.


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Msg. Scooter
2009-11-18 01:28:59 UTC
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On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:48:00 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying, manipulative
Post by Petito
Post by David
Post by David
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read
More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
What a load of BS. You clearly have no knowledge of the facts.
Back to your career of lying agin.
You know nothing of what you post about.
All of your posts are complete tissues of lies and untruths.
You wouldn't know the truth if it smashed you in the face with a spiked mace.

--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.
Petito
2009-11-18 01:39:40 UTC
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On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:48:00 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying,
manipulative behaviour runs in the family, "Petito"
Post by Petito
Post by David
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Google search turns up this -
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read
More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
What a load of BS. You clearly have no knowledge of the facts.
Back to your career of lying agin.
You know nothing of what you post about.
All of your posts are complete tissues of lies and untruths.
You wouldn't know the truth if it smashed you in the face with a spiked mace.
Idiot.


--
***@gmail.com
Msg. Scooter
2009-11-18 05:47:21 UTC
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On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:39:40 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying, manipulative
Post by Petito
Post by Msg. Scooter
On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:48:00 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying,
manipulative behaviour runs in the family, "Petito"
Post by Petito
Post by David
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read
More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
What a load of BS. You clearly have no knowledge of the facts.
Back to your career of lying agin.
You know nothing of what you post about.
All of your posts are complete tissues of lies and untruths.
You wouldn't know the truth if it smashed you in the face with a spiked mace.
Idiot.
You are lying again, you just can't help yourself. You are basically dishonest
and want to be noticed, first was the claim about your degrees which is a total
pack of lies, then this.
I guess you love to bask in the adulation of the gullible, that's all you can
expect.
--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.
Petito
2009-11-18 05:59:50 UTC
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On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:39:40 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying,
manipulative behaviour runs in the family, "Petito"
Post by Petito
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On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:48:00 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying,
manipulative behaviour runs in the family, "Petito"
Post by Petito
Post by David
Post by David
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks
about the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four
other after. Read
More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
What a load of BS. You clearly have no knowledge of the facts.
Back to your career of lying agin.
You know nothing of what you post about.
All of your posts are complete tissues of lies and untruths.
You wouldn't know the truth if it smashed you in the face with a spiked mace.
Idiot.
You are lying again, you just can't help yourself. You are basically
dishonest and want to be noticed, first was the claim about your
degrees which is a total pack of lies, then this.
I guess you love to bask in the adulation of the gullible, that's all
you can expect.
* smile.

Now wallow in your ignorance.


--
***@gmail.com
Msg. Scooter
2009-11-18 07:51:38 UTC
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On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:59:50 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying, manipulative
Post by Petito
Post by Msg. Scooter
On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:39:40 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying,
manipulative behaviour runs in the family, "Petito"
Post by Petito
Post by Msg. Scooter
On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:48:00 +1300, Re: Harawiras - bullying,
manipulative behaviour runs in the family, "Petito"
Post by Petito
Post by David
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks
about the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four
other after. Read
More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
What a load of BS. You clearly have no knowledge of the facts.
Back to your career of lying agin.
You know nothing of what you post about.
All of your posts are complete tissues of lies and untruths.
You wouldn't know the truth if it smashed you in the face with a spiked mace.
Idiot.
You are lying again, you just can't help yourself. You are basically
dishonest and want to be noticed, first was the claim about your
degrees which is a total pack of lies, then this.
I guess you love to bask in the adulation of the gullible, that's all
you can expect.
* smile.
Now wallow in your ignorance.
But it is you that is the ignorant one. Your tissue of lies is starting to
unravel and you will be the one who is shown up.
You hypocrisy is on;y exceeded by you lies, lies that are so transparent I
wonder why you do or can even think anyone would believe them.
First you claimed you had relevant degrees abut refused to tell what they were,
then you claimed to have yet another qualification but still wouldn't elaborate,
perhaps because you knew you would be caught out instantly.

--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.
Kerry
2009-11-18 08:35:35 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point.  What is it?
A L P
 Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
Errm Harawira beat dozens of PATIENTS. Mentally ill people in her
care. Even in the 1980s it was not ok to beat patients. Even int he
1980s there were appropriate avenues for reporting crimes committed by
patients to the police, and for assessing and treating PATIENTs.
Beating was never part of the strategy. harawira was an ignorant
women who hired her familiy members and dozens of unqualified 'carers'
and allowed them to beat sick people

You are using historic incidences of people being beating in NZ mental
institutions to excuse and justify Titewhai Harawira beating
vulnerable people in her care?

It was disgusting. There was no justification for it then and there
is none now.
Petito
2009-11-18 11:58:55 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
I'll bet you intended to make a point. What is it?
A L P
Titewhai was convicted of doing something screws had done for
generations.
The patient had allegedly raped a staff member of Whare Paea.
If someone had't pimped on her she would have not been convicted.
That is a complete and utter lie. Harawira could have been charged with the
mistreatment of many patients , she was damned lucky to get away with what
she did.
One gets the impression that in your neck of the woods if they're Maori they
can be excused .
Oh and BTW the patient hadn't raped a staff member, that was BS oput forward
by Titewhai.

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Petito
2009-11-17 20:46:06 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
The behaviour of Titiwhai (and members of her family ) at Carrington was
disgusting and unforgiveable.
Why you should even try to dismiss or excuse it............
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Kerry
2009-11-18 08:36:15 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
David
2009-11-18 09:20:09 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
Kerry
2009-11-18 09:33:08 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
And they beat dozens of patients....
Petito
2009-11-18 11:50:17 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
They beat and mistreated many patients and Titewhai even had her children
who weren't
staff participate their mistreatment.
You can deny and bury your head in the sand but facts are facts.



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A _L_ P
2009-11-19 08:37:53 UTC
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental Hospitals
ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard. There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction. Otherwise they were mentally ill
people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of reprisals,
unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about precisely what
happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate the evidence of what
they had seen being done to others as well as what they themselves had
endured at the hands of that twisted woman and her hand-picked untrained
corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.

A L P
Petito
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
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after. Read More. CONVICTED
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard. There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction. Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate the
evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as what
they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman and
her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the unit as
their own private fiefdom.


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A _L_ P
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
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when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard. There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction. Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate the
evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as what
they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman and
her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the unit as
their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling. I remember the case as reported. I get the
impression you were closer to it than that? Or is it that your memory
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?

A L P
Petito
2009-11-21 03:54:46 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
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after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard. There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction. Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate
the evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as
what they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman
and her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling. I remember the case as reported. I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.



Or is it that your memory
Post by A _L_ P
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was also abuse
of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone dared to question
Titewhai's methods they suffered .
Post by A _L_ P
A L P
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bubba ray
2009-11-21 07:18:53 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
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...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard.  There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction.  Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
 reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate
the evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as
what they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman
and her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling.  I remember the case as reported.  I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.
Or is it that your memory
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was also abuse
of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone dared to question
Titewhai's methods they suffered .
A L P
--
Interesting. Would you agree with my assessment of Titewhai as a
sociopath?
Kerry
2009-11-21 13:19:25 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
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after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard.  There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction.  Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
 reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate
the evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as
what they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman
and her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling.  I remember the case as reported.  I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.
Or is it that your memory
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was also abuse
of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone dared to question
Titewhai's methods they suffered .
A L P
--
Interesting. Would you agree with my assessment of Titewhai as a
sociopath?
Just a violent ignorant bully
bubba ray
2009-11-22 05:08:50 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
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after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard.  There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction.  Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
 reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate
the evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as
what they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman
and her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling.  I remember the case as reported.  I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.
Or is it that your memory
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was also abuse
of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone dared to question
Titewhai's methods they suffered .
A L P
--
Interesting. Would you agree with my assessment of Titewhai as a
sociopath?
Just a violent ignorant bully
Isn't that the same thing?
Kerry
2009-11-22 10:02:04 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard.  There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction.  Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
 reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate
the evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as
what they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman
and her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling.  I remember the case as reported.  I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.
Or is it that your memory
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was also abuse
of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone dared to question
Titewhai's methods they suffered .
A L P
--
Interesting. Would you agree with my assessment of Titewhai as a
sociopath?
Just a violent ignorant bully
Isn't that the same thing?
Oh no nothing as rarified as a sociopath

Petito
2009-11-22 05:20:57 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks
about the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four
other after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business
mistake does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was
being heard. There was *one* patient whose complaint was made
with enough evidence to actually get a conviction. Otherwise
they were mentally ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied,
browbeaten, fearful of reprisals, unable to stand up to the
pressure of questioning about precisely what happened on which
day, and by whom, to corroborate the evidence of what they had
seen being done to others as well as what they themselves had
endured at the hands of that twisted woman and her hand-picked
untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling. I remember the case as reported. I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.
Or is it that your memory
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was
also abuse of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone
dared to question Titewhai's methods they suffered .
A L P
--
Interesting. Would you agree with my assessment of Titewhai as a
sociopath?
Just a violent ignorant bully
She even used to argue with Dr Pete McGeorge (who was incharge of mental
health) about Maori methods and sometimes tried to prevent him visiting the
clinic.

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A _L_ P
2009-11-21 10:00:07 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks about
the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four other
after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business mistake
does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was being
heard. There was *one* patient whose complaint was made with enough
evidence to actually get a conviction. Otherwise they were mentally
ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied, browbeaten, fearful of
reprisals, unable to stand up to the pressure of questioning about
precisely what happened on which day, and by whom, to corroborate
the evidence of what they had seen being done to others as well as
what they themselves had endured at the hands of that twisted woman
and her hand-picked untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams.
A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling. I remember the case as reported. I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.
Or is it that your memory
Post by A _L_ P
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was also
abuse of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone dared to
question Titewhai's methods they suffered .
That doesn't surprise me. The way she behaves now suggests that it's
common knowledge that only a reckless fool would dare oppose her. Even
politicians seem to know it, the way they let her clutch their arms and
play Hostess with the Mostest on Waitangi Day.

A L P
Petito
2009-11-22 05:24:39 UTC
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TITEWHAI HARAWIRA FOUND GUILTY, Reporter Jill Gallop talks
about the verdicts handed down to Titewhai Harawira and four
other after. Read More. CONVICTED
...www.soundarchives.co.nz/search_databases?sq_content... -
when i was a young community worker i visited jails, mental
Hospitals ad nauseum...
tryin' the change the system , if not the world...
it goes with the territory....
now lets have a catalogue of people's business mistakes...
Ahh so beating mentally unwell people counts as a business
mistake does it?
Mrs Harawira was convicted of an assault on one patient.
I think you can't have been paying attention when the case was
being heard. There was *one* patient whose complaint was made
with enough evidence to actually get a conviction. Otherwise
they were mentally ill people - disturbed, fragile, bullied,
browbeaten, fearful of reprisals, unable to stand up to the
pressure of questioning about precisely what happened on which
day, and by whom, to corroborate the evidence of what they had
seen being done to others as well as what they themselves had
endured at the hands of that twisted woman and her hand-picked
untrained corps of yes ma'am how high ma'ams. A L P
There was systematic abuse of patients and the Harawiras ran the
unit as their own private fiefdom.
It was appalling. I remember the case as reported. I get the
impression you were closer to it than that?
Yes I was.
Or is it that your memory
Post by A _L_ P
is better than mine re the information that came out during the
investigation and court case?
I had inside information , it wasn't just patient abuse , it was also
abuse of others, family of patients and staff . If anyone dared to
question Titewhai's methods they suffered .
That doesn't surprise me. The way she behaves now suggests that it's
common knowledge that only a reckless fool would dare oppose her. Even
politicians seem to know it, the way they let her clutch their
arms and play Hostess with the Mostest on Waitangi Day.
A L P
Yes, she's a bully who believes psychiatric problems never occurred in Maori
prior to colonialism and that Maori voodoo is the cure for it! lol

--
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