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One of my least favourite politicians getting it spot on.
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Tony
2024-12-16 18:03:22 UTC
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Let's hope he is correct.
Crash
2024-12-16 21:44:24 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 18:03:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
No sign to me that the Carnival is over yet. What Winston refers to
is still in full flight.
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Crash McBash
Gordon
2024-12-16 22:02:52 UTC
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Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)

The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out. It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.

Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Rich80105
2024-12-17 00:52:26 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Tony
2024-12-17 01:01:08 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
Yoiur sarcasm and deliberate twisting of pther people's words is offensive.
Please stop it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Gordon
2024-12-17 02:19:01 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
Let try this. If a white person had given the same speech there would have
been in all likely hood that the response would have been in terms of race.

By being a Maori Winston has removed one vector of attack.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Tony
2024-12-17 03:17:50 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
Let try this. If a white person had given the same speech there would have
been in all likely hood that the response would have been in terms of race.
Of course it would, and Rich knows that. Acknowledging it is of course not what
he will do.
Post by Gordon
By being a Maori Winston has removed one vector of attack.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Crash
2024-12-17 07:19:44 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
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Crash McBash
Rich80105
2024-12-17 08:43:57 UTC
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Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Tony
2024-12-17 19:34:43 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Suddenly, when faced with his own ineptness, he starts to abuse others. Finally
he has abused one of the most even-handed and pleasantly mannered posters here.
I have said it before and I will do so again, Rich is a sociopath. He shows
almost all of the traits and on the 20 item check list fulfills about 16 of
them. Look it up if interested, I won't post the links here.
Crash
2024-12-18 07:12:33 UTC
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 19:34:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Suddenly, when faced with his own ineptness, he starts to abuse others. Finally
he has abused one of the most even-handed and pleasantly mannered posters here.
I have said it before and I will do so again, Rich is a sociopath. He shows
almost all of the traits and on the 20 item check list fulfills about 16 of
them. Look it up if interested, I won't post the links here.
Thanks for the complement Tony. Rich seems to be getting more extreme
in his posts - maybe realising that Labour are in dire trouble, helped
only by Luxons National being too soft on them.
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Crash McBash
Tony
2024-12-18 07:26:29 UTC
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Post by Crash
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 19:34:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Suddenly, when faced with his own ineptness, he starts to abuse others. Finally
he has abused one of the most even-handed and pleasantly mannered posters here.
I have said it before and I will do so again, Rich is a sociopath. He shows
almost all of the traits and on the 20 item check list fulfills about 16 of
them. Look it up if interested, I won't post the links here.
Thanks for the complement Tony. Rich seems to be getting more extreme
in his posts - maybe realising that Labour are in dire trouble, helped
only by Luxons National being too soft on them.
Yes I agree, the government needs to man up and take Labour and TPM head on
with all their racist nonsense. Ignoring it is very dangerous.
Crash
2024-12-18 07:09:14 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
--
Crash McBash
Rich80105
2024-12-18 08:15:08 UTC
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Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
Tony
2024-12-18 08:33:50 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
Gordon wrote that! Not Crash.
You should be more careful.
Crash
2024-12-18 21:01:20 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
--
Crash McBash
Rich80105
2024-12-18 21:51:34 UTC
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Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
Tony
2024-12-18 23:48:24 UTC
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Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
I deleted absolutely nothing. You may now apologise for that lie. (But you
won't will you?).
Crash
2024-12-19 00:27:49 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
None of us have done that in this thread Rich.
--
Crash McBash
Tony
2024-12-19 02:42:36 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
So no apology, yup that's ol' dickbot.
Tony
2024-12-20 03:57:14 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic sociopath.
Rich80105
2024-12-20 04:55:10 UTC
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:57:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic sociopath.
Crash had already pointed out that in the thread the above comment was
made you had not in fact deleted parts of the post that you could not
deal with - I would applaud your ceasing that annoying habit, but now
you have changed the Subject of a thread, thereby starting a new one -
very strange and certainly not helpful to good discussion on NZ
General . . .
Tony
2024-12-20 06:16:17 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:57:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be
in
the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell
it
as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they
have
gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic sociopath.
Crash had already pointed out that in the thread the above comment was
made you had not in fact deleted parts of the post that you could not
deal with - I would applaud your ceasing that annoying habit, but now
you have changed the Subject of a thread, thereby starting a new one -
very strange and certainly not helpful to good discussion on NZ
General . . .
Wrong again. I have changed the name but it is not a new thread.
It is common to change thread names.
Your technical skills are poor to non.
Still no apology however. You are such a sociopathic child.
Gordon
2024-12-20 06:26:16 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:57:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be
in
the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell
it
as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT
could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they
have
gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic sociopath.
Crash had already pointed out that in the thread the above comment was
made you had not in fact deleted parts of the post that you could not
deal with - I would applaud your ceasing that annoying habit, but now
you have changed the Subject of a thread, thereby starting a new one -
very strange and certainly not helpful to good discussion on NZ
General . . .
Wrong again. I have changed the name but it is not a new thread.
It is common to change thread names.
Your technical skills are poor to non.
Still no apology however. You are such a sociopathic child.
There was a convention many years ago that when the thread was no longer on
the current title the new thread title as places first with the older title
placed after was: This allowed readers to keep up or drop out at the start
of the new thread. This convention is still alive in places. It is not hard
and fast rules.
Tony
2024-12-20 07:22:33 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:57:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be
in
the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell
it
as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the
disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
deaf.
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
It also allows the
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
What was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
Post by Rich80105
Post by Gordon
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT
could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they
have
gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
As appears in what comments?
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic sociopath.
Crash had already pointed out that in the thread the above comment was
made you had not in fact deleted parts of the post that you could not
deal with - I would applaud your ceasing that annoying habit, but now
you have changed the Subject of a thread, thereby starting a new one -
very strange and certainly not helpful to good discussion on NZ
General . . .
Wrong again. I have changed the name but it is not a new thread.
It is common to change thread names.
Your technical skills are poor to non.
Still no apology however. You are such a sociopathic child.
There was a convention many years ago that when the thread was no longer on
the current title the new thread title as places first with the older title
placed after was: This allowed readers to keep up or drop out at the start
of the new thread. This convention is still alive in places. It is not hard
and fast rules.
It suits Rich to believe his rules are the only rules. They are not. Changing
titles is perfectly acceptable and is not a new thread, merely a transition to
a new topic.

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