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A&A interview the The Atlas Networks Debbi Gibbs
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Crash
2024-12-12 20:52:16 UTC
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There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.

Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
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Tony
2024-12-12 21:28:38 UTC
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http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
Thanks Crash.
That puts the lie to Rich and his cronies.
Of course he will claim that the interviewee was lying. But with no evidence.
I will let balanced people judge.
Rich80105
2024-12-13 01:29:47 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Tony
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Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
Thanks Crash.
That puts the lie to Rich and his cronies.
Of course he will claim that the interviewee was lying. But with no evidence.
I will let balanced people judge.
Gibbs was being very careful in her answers, but I think she was being
very careful not to lie. Gibbs was the Chair of the Atlas Network - I
had not heard that she had been replaced.

But for NZ Links to Atlas, see:
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-apparatus-behind-the-curtain-part-2-the-mainline/

(It also covers Groundswell being 'assisted' with organisation and
funding by the NZ Taxpayer Union / Campaign Co / etc )
Tony
2024-12-13 01:37:21 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
Thanks Crash.
That puts the lie to Rich and his cronies.
Of course he will claim that the interviewee was lying. But with no evidence.
I will let balanced people judge.
Gibbs was being very careful in her answers, but I think she was being
very careful not to lie. Gibbs was the Chair of the Atlas Network - I
had not heard that she had been replaced.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-apparatus-behind-the-curtain-part-2-the-mainline/
(It also covers Groundswell being 'assisted' with organisation and
funding by the NZ Taxpayer Union / Campaign Co / etc )
The whole point of the interview is whether or not Atlas is something other
than what they say they are.
You have failed miserably to show that they are not a charitable organisation
with excellent intentions.
You are therefore off topic (again! Who would have thought?).
Rich80105
2024-12-13 02:06:50 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:37:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
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Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
Thanks Crash.
That puts the lie to Rich and his cronies.
Of course he will claim that the interviewee was lying. But with no evidence.
I will let balanced people judge.
Gibbs was being very careful in her answers, but I think she was being
very careful not to lie. Gibbs was the Chair of the Atlas Network - I
had not heard that she had been replaced.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-apparatus-behind-the-curtain-part-2-the-mainline/
(It also covers Groundswell being 'assisted' with organisation and
funding by the NZ Taxpayer Union / Campaign Co / etc )
The whole point of the interview is whether or not Atlas is something other
than what they say they are.
You have failed miserably to show that they are not a charitable organisation
with excellent intentions.
You are therefore off topic (again! Who would have thought?).
I am not aware of any claims that the Atlas Network is a charitable
organisation - what are you talking about, Tony?
Tony
2024-12-13 02:57:51 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:37:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
Thanks Crash.
That puts the lie to Rich and his cronies.
Of course he will claim that the interviewee was lying. But with no evidence.
I will let balanced people judge.
Gibbs was being very careful in her answers, but I think she was being
very careful not to lie. Gibbs was the Chair of the Atlas Network - I
had not heard that she had been replaced.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-apparatus-behind-the-curtain-part-2-the-mainline/
(It also covers Groundswell being 'assisted' with organisation and
funding by the NZ Taxpayer Union / Campaign Co / etc )
The whole point of the interview is whether or not Atlas is something other
than what they say they are.
You have failed miserably to show that they are not a charitable organisation
with excellent intentions.
You are therefore off topic (again! Who would have thought?).
I am not aware of any claims that the Atlas Network is a charitable
organisation - what are you talking about, Tony?
Watch the interview. It is all there. Not for profit equals charitable. Sorry
that I did not post in your native tongue but I don't speak idiot.
Gordon
2024-12-13 02:25:06 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
Thanks Crash.
That puts the lie to Rich and his cronies.
Of course he will claim that the interviewee was lying. But with no evidence.
I will let balanced people judge.
Gibbs was being very careful in her answers,
Given this type of situation the reply to the interview questions has to be
careful answers. Atlas needs to not inflame the situation for many reasons.
If and only if there is a great deal to be lost by saying something will
have a huge storm on a tea cup.
Post by Rich80105
but I think she was being
very careful not to lie. Gibbs was the Chair of the Atlas Network - I
had not heard that she had been replaced.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-apparatus-behind-the-curtain-part-2-the-mainline/
(It also covers Groundswell being 'assisted' with organisation and
funding by the NZ Taxpayer Union / Campaign Co / etc )
As Gibbs pointed out they have handing out funding for things which they see as
important for the well being of a healthy society. Free speech was the
example given, which history shows that the Previous Government was totally
in favour of unless it aligned with their views.

The fact that David Seymour is being attacked by the Left shows that he is
probably on the right track.
Rich80105
2024-12-13 00:58:00 UTC
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Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
from comment on that video, see:


and also relevant:
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
Tony
2024-12-13 01:42:11 UTC
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Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
http://youtu.be/tlQOw6qpblY
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
2 left wing organisations of course!
You have never provided evidence that the Atlas network is other than an
altruistic one - you simply hate people who are caring.
Rich80105
2024-12-13 02:10:47 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:42:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
http://youtu.be/tlQOw6qpblY
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
2 left wing organisations of course!
You have never provided evidence that the Atlas network is other than an
altruistic one - you simply hate people who are caring.
No one has suggested that the Atlas network is altruistic - it is an
organisation whose members are political think-tanks - David Seymour
and Jordan Williams are both graduates from their "MBA" programme -
for more information read this article:

https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/10/31/chiding-in-plain-sight/
Tony
2024-12-13 02:55:42 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:42:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
http://youtu.be/tlQOw6qpblY
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
2 left wing organisations of course!
You have never provided evidence that the Atlas network is other than an
altruistic one - you simply hate people who are caring.
No one has suggested that the Atlas network is altruistic - it is an
organisation whose members are political think-tanks - David Seymour
and Jordan Williams are both graduates from their "MBA" programme -
https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/10/31/chiding-in-plain-sight/
They are a not for profit and they claim to be altruistic.
Until you prove otherwise then that is what they are.
Simple, just like you.
Rich80105
2024-12-13 03:35:15 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:42:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
http://youtu.be/tlQOw6qpblY
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
2 left wing organisations of course!
You have never provided evidence that the Atlas network is other than an
altruistic one - you simply hate people who are caring.
No one has suggested that the Atlas network is altruistic - it is an
organisation whose members are political think-tanks - David Seymour
and Jordan Williams are both graduates from their "MBA" programme -
https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/10/31/chiding-in-plain-sight/
They are a not for profit and they claim to be altruistic.
Until you prove otherwise then that is what they are.
Simple, just like you.
They are a political organisation, that now work with member think
tanks in a range of countries, working for common political aims. I
have seen no claim from them that they are altruistic, but all
political organisations claim to make lives better for at least some
of the population. You may see them as more altruistic than some
political parties; others will disagree and see other parties as more
altruistic than organisations such as ACT, NZ Taxpayer Union, NZ
Initiative, etc. What do you want proved, Tony?
Tony
2024-12-13 06:05:57 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:55:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:42:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
http://youtu.be/tlQOw6qpblY
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
2 left wing organisations of course!
You have never provided evidence that the Atlas network is other than an
altruistic one - you simply hate people who are caring.
No one has suggested that the Atlas network is altruistic - it is an
organisation whose members are political think-tanks - David Seymour
and Jordan Williams are both graduates from their "MBA" programme -
https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/10/31/chiding-in-plain-sight/
They are a not for profit and they claim to be altruistic.
Until you prove otherwise then that is what they are.
Simple, just like you.
They are a political organisation, that now work with member think
tanks in a range of countries, working for common political aims. I
have seen no claim from them that they are altruistic, but all
political organisations claim to make lives better for at least some
of the population. You may see them as more altruistic than some
political parties; others will disagree and see other parties as more
altruistic than organisations such as ACT, NZ Taxpayer Union, NZ
Initiative, etc. What do you want proved, Tony?
They calim to be a charitable organisation, ie altruistic. Prove them otherwise
or stop wasting your time.
Rich80105
2024-12-13 07:08:14 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:05:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:55:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:42:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
http://youtu.be/tlQOw6qpblY
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
2 left wing organisations of course!
You have never provided evidence that the Atlas network is other than an
altruistic one - you simply hate people who are caring.
No one has suggested that the Atlas network is altruistic - it is an
organisation whose members are political think-tanks - David Seymour
and Jordan Williams are both graduates from their "MBA" programme -
https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/10/31/chiding-in-plain-sight/
They are a not for profit and they claim to be altruistic.
Until you prove otherwise then that is what they are.
Simple, just like you.
They are a political organisation, that now work with member think
tanks in a range of countries, working for common political aims. I
have seen no claim from them that they are altruistic, but all
political organisations claim to make lives better for at least some
of the population. You may see them as more altruistic than some
political parties; others will disagree and see other parties as more
altruistic than organisations such as ACT, NZ Taxpayer Union, NZ
Initiative, etc. What do you want proved, Tony?
They calim to be a charitable organisation, ie altruistic. Prove them otherwise
or stop wasting your time.
Show us a reference to "They calim to be a charitable organisation, ie
altruistic." The words charitable and altruistic do of course have
different meanings . . .
Tony
2024-12-13 07:25:04 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:05:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:55:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:42:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Crash
http://youtu.be/g7Ra5vzpOjA
There are a number of topics covered in this short interview but of
particular interest is the connection between the Atlas Network, David
Seymour, the Free Speech Union etc.
Gibbs is on the Advisory Board, and a kiwi living in New York.
http://youtu.be/tlQOw6qpblY
https://thestandard.org.nz/atlas-network-in-new-zealand/
2 left wing organisations of course!
You have never provided evidence that the Atlas network is other than an
altruistic one - you simply hate people who are caring.
No one has suggested that the Atlas network is altruistic - it is an
organisation whose members are political think-tanks - David Seymour
and Jordan Williams are both graduates from their "MBA" programme -
https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/10/31/chiding-in-plain-sight/
They are a not for profit and they claim to be altruistic.
Until you prove otherwise then that is what they are.
Simple, just like you.
They are a political organisation, that now work with member think
tanks in a range of countries, working for common political aims. I
have seen no claim from them that they are altruistic, but all
political organisations claim to make lives better for at least some
of the population. You may see them as more altruistic than some
political parties; others will disagree and see other parties as more
altruistic than organisations such as ACT, NZ Taxpayer Union, NZ
Initiative, etc. What do you want proved, Tony?
They calim to be a charitable organisation, ie altruistic. Prove them otherwise
or stop wasting your time.
Show us a reference to "They calim to be a charitable organisation, ie
altruistic."
Watch the interview and listen carefully to the words.
Post by Rich80105
The words charitable and altruistic do of course have
different meanings . . .
Maybe in your native language but in English they have complimentary meanings.
Not different at all.
You really should get that English language training before you make a biiger
fool of yourself.

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