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Rich80105
2020-07-13 01:08:51 UTC
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** Good news on the economic front:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.

** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
look; Muller and Woodhouse appear to be avoiding the press :
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
Christchurch at the poor job they did with the Earthquake:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch

** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."

"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.

Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."

Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .

More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
countries will develop herd immunity:
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
John Bowes
2020-07-13 01:29:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
Rich80105
2020-07-13 04:00:13 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
So how would you get that number down?
John Bowes
2020-07-13 05:01:22 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
So how would you get that number down?
FFS you are a stupid stalinist slut rich! How do you think we'll get that number down? Stop importing infected people is one option. Can you get your head out of your arse for a second and give another possible way of bringing that number down?
Rich80105
2020-07-13 06:53:22 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:01:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
So how would you get that number down?
FFS you are a stupid stalinist slut rich! How do you think we'll get that number down? Stop importing infected people is one option. Can you get your head out of your arse for a second and give another possible way of bringing that number down?
So you would stop New Zealanders returning to New Zealand, would you?
John Bowes
2020-07-13 09:36:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:01:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
So how would you get that number down?
FFS you are a stupid stalinist slut rich! How do you think we'll get that number down? Stop importing infected people is one option. Can you get your head out of your arse for a second and give another possible way of bringing that number down?
So you would stop New Zealanders returning to New Zealand, would you?
What would you do Rich? You already know what I think of letting possible infected people into the country. Now answer what you'd do!?
Rich80105
2020-07-13 10:53:32 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:36:26 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:01:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
So how would you get that number down?
FFS you are a stupid stalinist slut rich! How do you think we'll get that number down? Stop importing infected people is one option. Can you get your head out of your arse for a second and give another possible way of bringing that number down?
So you would stop New Zealanders returning to New Zealand, would you?
What would you do Rich? You already know what I think of letting possible infected people into the country. Now answer what you'd do!?
Exactly what our governmentis doing. They must accept New Zealanders
wishing to enter the country. You have not explained how you think
they should stop New Zealanders returning . . .
John Bowes
2020-07-13 12:34:00 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:36:26 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:01:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
So how would you get that number down?
FFS you are a stupid stalinist slut rich! How do you think we'll get that number down? Stop importing infected people is one option. Can you get your head out of your arse for a second and give another possible way of bringing that number down?
So you would stop New Zealanders returning to New Zealand, would you?
What would you do Rich? You already know what I think of letting possible infected people into the country. Now answer what you'd do!?
Exactly what our governmentis doing. They must accept New Zealanders
wishing to enter the country. You have not explained how you think
they should stop New Zealanders returning . . .
But they have Rich! Your convenient memory seems to be ignoring the fact the government asked the airlines to stop taking bookings because they'd failed to account for the number of returnees. PLUS! The more they let in the greater the risk of yet another fuck up from your chaotic government!
l***@gmail.com
2020-07-13 21:49:54 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:36:26 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:01:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054072/government-billions-in-the-red-thanks-to-coronavirus-but-accounts-show-silver-lining
National prolonged the Global Financial Crisis by taking money away
from those that spend all they earn, and gave it to those that saved
for another day - their increase in GST wasn't just a broken promise,
but badly timed. They ended up increasing debt hugely even after
selling off a lot of government assets, and only made a trivial
surplus towards the end of their 9 years.
Labour put money into the hands of those that would spend - the above
expected tax came from GST and corporate taxes.
** Difficulties for National - lying to New Zealand is not a good
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122102664/mullers-new-job-convince-the-public-nationals-not-a-moral-vacuum
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122082389/dirty-politics-can-national-stop-the-rot
And it is clear that National under-estimate the resentment in
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122103558/critics-scoff-at-todd-mullers-gerry-rebuilt-this-city-call-in-christchurch
** And speculation about the Opposition - it seems ACT is prepared to
have National as a support party . . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300052315/acts-david-seymour-has-more-impressive-record-than-todd-muller
From that stuff article
"The stakes are high. It is clear Seymour has no confidence in
National. He's said publicly, "If Labour brought in full-blown
communism, the Nats would campaign on managing it better." If New
Zealand is to be diverted from its current leftist drift, the Act
Party and its determined leader will be the reason."
"Charter Schools and the End of Life Choice Bill are two tangible
achievements Seymour has clocked up in his six years as MP, whilst
also burdened with being his party's sole MP, leader, and occasional
dancing celebrity. It is a far more impressive record than Todd
Muller, who entered the house at the same election as Seymour and
whose only real achievement has been to depose the beleaguered
Bridges.
Seymour is a conviction politician with his own gravity. He wants to
move the country in a better direction and is remarkably confident in
his ability to do so. This is an audacious ambition for an MP who has
often found himself outvoted 119 to 1. Yet, reasonable men do not
change the world."
Now those comments must be taken with a bucket load of salt - Damien
Grant is hardly a dispassionate neutral journalist; he has shown that
he is a far-right extremist, but still it is an insight as to where a
lot of votes that went to National in 2017 may go this year . . .
More seriously, bad news for those with the self-conviction that some
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity
Utter bullshit typical of the troll Rich80102. We still have twenty plus cases active in New Zealand. THAT is important!
So how would you get that number down?
FFS you are a stupid stalinist slut rich! How do you think we'll get that number down? Stop importing infected people is one option. Can you get your head out of your arse for a second and give another possible way of bringing that number down?
So you would stop New Zealanders returning to New Zealand, would you?
(Love to see the little troll try!)
Post by Rich80105
Post by John Bowes
What would you do Rich? You already know what I think of letting possible infected people into the country.
You know full well that what you think can never influence the facts of the matter. It's called "barking at the moon" - the only thing you're any good at.
Post by Rich80105
Post by John Bowes
Now answer what you'd do!?
Exactly what our government is doing.
Indeed, what else would or could anyone do when constrained by national and international laws?
Post by Rich80105
They must accept New Zealanders wishing to enter the country.
Obviously.
Post by Rich80105
You have not explained how you think they should stop New Zealanders returning . . .
Correct. Your dingbat moon barker has cornered himself without even trying.
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