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Tony
2021-09-12 22:14:35 UTC
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Or could it? Perhaps we could also treat heroes like villains - like doctors
who care enough to risk their careers by telling their truth. Just one example.
James Christophers
2021-09-13 02:34:52 UTC
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Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/nhtN5_wKpq4
Or could it? Perhaps we could also treat heroes like villains - like doctors
who care enough to risk their careers by telling their truth. Just one example.
Said hero is an avid, self-proclaimed Millwall FC fan. He also enjoys more than a nodding acquaintance with both Millwall FC fan villany and the police. A clinical addiction to violence might be said to be taking it a smidgen to far, but the latent pathology of it is plain. It has also been unveiled that since the attack, Mr Larner has received two suspended sentences and as such he has unspent convictions, viz:

A video has also emerged of Mr Larner months before the attack in February 2017, shouting at protesters: “I’m National Front…people like you stink.”

In a separate incident the month after the terror attack, Mr Larner went to MP Neil Coyle’s constituency office and told staff that London Mayor Sadiq Khan should not be in the country.

Making a shooting gesture, he said: “All Muslims are the same.”

Mr Larner later admitted racially aggravated common assault and religiously aggravated harassment and was slapped with an eight-week suspended sentence.

Now some might claim that through his spontaneous and widely praised knee-jerk act of (in this instance valorous) conditioned violence, Mr Larner had redeemed himself. Well, perhaps he did, but plainly only momentarily, it seems, not unlike the devout Catholic who, having fervently solicited his priestly absolution on a Friday morning only then goes out that same night for his routine under-age knee-trembler behind the local KFC.

That said, and since a comparison has been drawn between Mr Larner and caring doctors heroic enough to risk their careers etc., it might now be germane to reconsider this in the light of Mr Larner's career which appears, at least spasmodically, to have included his own violent and extremist behaviour leading to actual bodily harm and mayhem, apropos of which this report:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8296916/football-violence-arrests-table-millwall/

Note well that the very paper than lionises Mr Larner is also that very same paper that specifically excoriates him his own kind.

So when it comes to the media and the arrant humbug spouted by its meretricious mouthpieces', YouTube or in print...

Caveat lector.
JohnO
2021-09-13 20:33:36 UTC
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Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/nhtN5_wKpq4
Or could it? Perhaps we could also treat heroes like villains - like doctors
who care enough to risk their careers by telling their truth. Just one example.
A video has also emerged of Mr Larner months before the attack in February 2017, shouting at protesters: “I’m National Front…people like you stink.”
In a separate incident the month after the terror attack, Mr Larner went to MP Neil Coyle’s constituency office and told staff that London Mayor Sadiq Khan should not be in the country.
Making a shooting gesture, he said: “All Muslims are the same.”
Mr Larner later admitted racially aggravated common assault and religiously aggravated harassment and was slapped with an eight-week suspended sentence.
Now some might claim that through his spontaneous and widely praised knee-jerk act of (in this instance valorous) conditioned violence, Mr Larner had redeemed himself. Well, perhaps he did, but plainly only momentarily, it seems, not unlike the devout Catholic who, having fervently solicited his priestly absolution on a Friday morning only then goes out that same night for his routine under-age knee-trembler behind the local KFC.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8296916/football-violence-arrests-table-millwall/
Note well that the very paper than lionises Mr Larner is also that very same paper that specifically excoriates him his own kind.
So when it comes to the media and the arrant humbug spouted by its meretricious mouthpieces', YouTube or in print...
Caveat lector.
He does sound like a completely revolting character, doesn't he?

However that said, his actions with regard to the terrorists legally should be considered in isolation. That is why court trials always disallow non direct evidence details to be brought to court.
Tony
2021-09-14 02:39:21 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/nhtN5_wKpq4
Or could it? Perhaps we could also treat heroes like villains - like doctors
who care enough to risk their careers by telling their truth. Just one example.
Said hero is an avid, self-proclaimed Millwall FC fan. He also enjoys more
than a nodding acquaintance with both Millwall FC fan villany and the police. A
clinical addiction to violence might be said to be taking it a smidgen to far,
but the latent pathology of it is plain. It has also been unveiled that since
the attack, Mr Larner has received two suspended sentences and as such he has
A video has also emerged of Mr Larner months before the attack in February
2017, shouting at protesters: “I’m National Front
people like you
stink.”
In a separate incident the month after the terror attack, Mr Larner went to
MP Neil Coyle’s constituency office and told staff that London Mayor Sadiq
Khan should not be in the country.
Making a shooting gesture, he said: “All Muslims are the same.”
Mr Larner later admitted racially aggravated common assault and religiously
aggravated harassment and was slapped with an eight-week suspended sentence.
Now some might claim that through his spontaneous and widely praised
knee-jerk act of (in this instance valorous) conditioned violence, Mr Larner
had redeemed himself. Well, perhaps he did, but plainly only momentarily, it
seems, not unlike the devout Catholic who, having fervently solicited his
priestly absolution on a Friday morning only then goes out that same night for
his routine under-age knee-trembler behind the local KFC.
That said, and since a comparison has been drawn between Mr Larner and
caring doctors heroic enough to risk their careers etc., it might now be
germane to reconsider this in the light of Mr Larner's career which appears, at
least spasmodically, to have included his own violent and extremist behaviour
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8296916/football-violence-arrests-table-millwall/
Note well that the very paper than lionises Mr Larner is also that very same
paper that specifically excoriates him his own kind.
So when it comes to the media and the arrant humbug spouted by its
meretricious mouthpieces', YouTube or in print...
Caveat lector.
He does sound like a completely revolting character, doesn't he?
However that said, his actions with regard to the terrorists legally should be
considered in isolation. That is why court trials always disallow non direct
evidence details to be brought to court.
Exactly so.
James Christophers
2021-09-14 04:19:53 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
http://youtu.be/nhtN5_wKpq4
Or could it? Perhaps we could also treat heroes like villains - like doctors
who care enough to risk their careers by telling their truth. Just one example.
A video has also emerged of Mr Larner months before the attack in February 2017, shouting at protesters: “I’m National Front…people like you stink.”
In a separate incident the month after the terror attack, Mr Larner went to MP Neil Coyle’s constituency office and told staff that London Mayor Sadiq Khan should not be in the country.
Making a shooting gesture, he said: “All Muslims are the same.”
Mr Larner later admitted racially aggravated common assault and religiously aggravated harassment and was slapped with an eight-week suspended sentence.
Now some might claim that through his spontaneous and widely praised knee-jerk act of (in this instance valorous) conditioned violence, Mr Larner had redeemed himself. Well, perhaps he did, but plainly only momentarily, it seems, not unlike the devout Catholic who, having fervently solicited his priestly absolution on a Friday morning only then goes out that same night for his routine under-age knee-trembler behind the local KFC.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8296916/football-violence-arrests-table-millwall/
Note well that the very paper than lionises Mr Larner is also that very same paper that specifically excoriates him his own kind.
So when it comes to the media and the arrant humbug spouted by its meretricious mouthpieces', YouTube or in print...
Caveat lector.
He does sound like a completely revolting character, doesn't he?
However that said, his actions with regard to the terrorists legally should be considered in isolation.
And is being. His case is currently under review, largely as a result of public pressure - and there can be no harm in that.

Hero of the moment, no question, sustaining injuries the effects of which may well be with him for some considerable time - karma, some might drily observe. So the review is likely, I suspect, to conclude with nothing more burdensome than a judgely caution with an endorsement appended to the official entry in the court record and the police log. Which, in view of his continued and continuing violent and racist abuse and behaviour since his brief 15 minutes of redemption, sounds about right in this particular case.

(snip)

As for the suave and latte-swilling Katie Hopkins and her glowing endorsement of Millwall FC's serial thug du jour, why not now to take an alternative look at her in all her boofhead's smug delinquency as the attention-seeking Karen she truly is, true-to-type hairdo an' all?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57883692

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