Discussion:
It wasn't Sanzaar politics
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Tony
2020-09-11 23:53:12 UTC
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
Another example of "open" government.
Rich80105
2020-09-12 03:16:47 UTC
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
Tony
2020-09-12 03:57:56 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
Rich80105
2020-09-12 09:17:46 UTC
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Tony
2020-09-12 20:43:20 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony
Nonsense, you cannot dress it up. It was deliberate misinformation.
Post by Rich80105
- Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Off topic and irrelevant.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Off topic and irrelevant, just distraction again from you.
Rich80105
2020-09-12 23:14:14 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:43:20 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony
Nonsense, you cannot dress it up. It was deliberate misinformation.
I am sure you see your unsupported personal opinion as fact, Tony.
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
- Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Off topic and irrelevant.
On the contrary, Tony; a reliable source with information that make a
lot of sense - the money, the access, the facilities and the numbers
of rugby organisations were against it coming to New Zealand - or
perhaps you think money does not matter to Rugby organisation?
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Off topic and irrelevant, just distraction again from you.
Tony
2020-09-12 23:30:01 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:43:20 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony
Nonsense, you cannot dress it up. It was deliberate misinformation.
I am sure you see your unsupported personal opinion as fact, Tony.
No, your unsupported opinion is nonsense. The PM actually said that it was
Sanzaar politics which supports the facts I have provided. Do read the news
occasionally and you might keep up.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
- Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Off topic and irrelevant.
On the contrary, Tony; a reliable source with information that make a
lot of sense - the money, the access, the facilities and the numbers
of rugby organisations were against it coming to New Zealand - or
perhaps you think money does not matter to Rugby organisation?
The PM was wrong. Period.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Off topic and irrelevant, just distraction again from you.
Rich80105
2020-09-13 00:22:23 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 18:30:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:43:20 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony
Nonsense, you cannot dress it up. It was deliberate misinformation.
I am sure you see your unsupported personal opinion as fact, Tony.
No, your unsupported opinion is nonsense. The PM actually said that it was
Sanzaar politics which supports the facts I have provided. Do read the news
occasionally and you might keep up.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/425792/australia-to-host-rugby-championship-as-nz-loses-out

"SANZAAR ultimately determined that based on government-required
quarantine protocols [for entry and training prior to the tournament]
and commercial underwriting, the Rugby Australia submission was the
most desirable and workable in terms of tournament logistics for the
essential pre-tournament preparation period and the six-week
tournament itself."

and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018763669/bledisloe-match-quite-possibly-on-election-weekend-nz-rugby
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
- Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Off topic and irrelevant.
On the contrary, Tony; a reliable source with information that make a
lot of sense - the money, the access, the facilities and the numbers
of rugby organisations were against it coming to New Zealand - or
perhaps you think money does not matter to Rugby organisation?
The PM was wrong. Period.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Off topic and irrelevant, just distraction again from you.
Your favourite defence when you have none - you are increasingly
irrelevant to nz.general, Tony
Tony
2020-09-13 01:16:17 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 18:30:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:43:20 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony
Nonsense, you cannot dress it up. It was deliberate misinformation.
I am sure you see your unsupported personal opinion as fact, Tony.
No, your unsupported opinion is nonsense. The PM actually said that it was
Sanzaar politics which supports the facts I have provided. Do read the news
occasionally and you might keep up.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/425792/australia-to-host-rugby-championship-as-nz-loses-out
"SANZAAR ultimately determined that based on government-required
quarantine protocols [for entry and training prior to the tournament]
and commercial underwriting, the Rugby Australia submission was the
most desirable and workable in terms of tournament logistics for the
essential pre-tournament preparation period and the six-week
tournament itself."
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018763669/bledisloe-match-quite-possibly-on-election-weekend-nz-rugby
Exactly. It was not Sanzaar politics it was an intelligent business decision.
The PM was wrong to suggest that it was a political decison. Thank you for
demonstrating that I was accurate.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
- Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Off topic and irrelevant.
On the contrary, Tony; a reliable source with information that make a
lot of sense - the money, the access, the facilities and the numbers
of rugby organisations were against it coming to New Zealand - or
perhaps you think money does not matter to Rugby organisation?
The PM was wrong. Period.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Off topic and irrelevant, just distraction again from you.
Your favourite defence when you have none - you are increasingly
irrelevant to nz.general, Tony
I was not defending anyone or anything merely pointing out your deliberate
attempt at distraction.
You have never had any relevance here and probably everywhere.
John Bowes
2020-09-13 04:46:24 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Nah.Many in New Zealand rely on St. Jacinda of the lying tongue to protect us slowly and late!
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Whereas Labour just redacts everything before handing over OIA reports.
Rich80105
2020-09-13 08:32:39 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Nah.Many in New Zealand rely on St. Jacinda of the lying tongue to protect us slowly and late!
No lying, JB, but you do seem inordinately scared - if "Crusher" is
frightening for you just remember to vote for the Labour party like
most people; she will then go away after the election. Or is your fear
because you are linked to the Mt Roskill church?
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Whereas Labour just redacts everything before handing over OIA reports.
John Bowes
2020-09-13 10:01:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Nah.Many in New Zealand rely on St. Jacinda of the lying tongue to protect us slowly and late!
No lying, JB, but you do seem inordinately scared - if "Crusher" is
frightening for you just remember to vote for the Labour party like
most people; she will then go away after the election. Or is your fear
because you are linked to the Mt Roskill church?
Not linked to any church Rich. I don't believe in invisible friends or bullshit saints like st Jacinda of the lying tongue! I'm not as gullible or fucking idiotc as you Rich.

I quite look forward to having Collins as PM. She has a record of actually doing things rather than just talking about them like Ardern, the Greens and Winston the utter shit :)
Post by Rich80105
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Whereas Labour just redacts everything before handing over OIA reports.
Interesting that you seem to be admitting the Coalition of Liars aren't as open as St Jacinda of the forked tongue claims.
Rich80105
2020-09-13 10:12:56 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 03:01:54 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Nah.Many in New Zealand rely on St. Jacinda of the lying tongue to protect us slowly and late!
No lying, JB, but you do seem inordinately scared - if "Crusher" is
frightening for you just remember to vote for the Labour party like
most people; she will then go away after the election. Or is your fear
because you are linked to the Mt Roskill church?
Not linked to any church Rich. I don't believe in invisible friends or bullshit saints like st Jacinda of the lying tongue! I'm not as gullible or fucking idiotc as you Rich.
I quite look forward to having Collins as PM. She has a record of actually doing things rather than just talking about them like Ardern, the Greens and Winston the utter shit :)
Post by Rich80105
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Whereas Labour just redacts everything before handing over OIA reports.
Interesting that you seem to be admitting the Coalition of Liars aren't as open as St Jacinda of the forked tongue claims.
Interesting that you do not recognise your own words, JohnB - perhaps
they are as forgettable to you as they are to others . . .
Rich80105
2020-09-13 23:29:09 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 03:01:54 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Nah.Many in New Zealand rely on St. Jacinda of the lying tongue to protect us slowly and late!
No lying, JB, but you do seem inordinately scared - if "Crusher" is
frightening for you just remember to vote for the Labour party like
most people; she will then go away after the election. Or is your fear
because you are linked to the Mt Roskill church?
Not linked to any church Rich. I don't believe in invisible friends or bullshit saints like st Jacinda of the lying tongue! I'm not as gullible or fucking idiotc as you Rich.
I quite look forward to having Collins as PM. She has a record of actually doing things rather than just talking about them like Ardern, the Greens and Winston the utter shit :)
Post by Rich80105
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Whereas Labour just redacts everything before handing over OIA reports.
Interesting that you seem to be admitting the Coalition of Liars aren't as open as St Jacinda of the forked tongue claims.
Interesting that you do not recognise your own words, JohnB - perhaps
they are as forgettable to you as they are to others . . .
Sorry John, my bad. I am rude.
Rich80105
2020-09-14 05:10:20 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 03:01:54 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Nah.Many in New Zealand rely on St. Jacinda of the lying tongue to protect us slowly and late!
No lying, JB, but you do seem inordinately scared - if "Crusher" is
frightening for you just remember to vote for the Labour party like
most people; she will then go away after the election. Or is your fear
because you are linked to the Mt Roskill church?
Not linked to any church Rich. I don't believe in invisible friends or bullshit saints like st Jacinda of the lying tongue! I'm not as gullible or fucking idiotc as you Rich.
I quite look forward to having Collins as PM. She has a record of actually doing things rather than just talking about them like Ardern, the Greens and Winston the utter shit :)
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Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
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Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Whereas Labour just redacts everything before handing over OIA reports.
Interesting that you seem to be admitting the Coalition of Liars aren't as open as St Jacinda of the forked tongue claims.
Interesting that you do not recognise your own words, JohnB - perhaps
they are as forgettable to you as they are to others . . .
Sorry John, my bad. I am rude.
Oh dear, the dimbulb forger at it again. I did not write that
response
John Bowes
2020-09-14 06:28:41 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 03:01:54 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:57:56 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:53:12 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
A minor difference in emphasis.that''s all.
No, a simple lie. A lie by the PM who promised that this government would be
open and honest, just a lie.
It would have been an opinion basedon advice, Tony - Clearly the NZ
Prime Minister was not involved in the internal matters of SANZAAR.
The initial reports from RNZ quoted more infratsructure available in
Australia, more support from State governments, and more relaxed
restrictions relating to Covid - perhaps you think that God will
provide protection if you have sufficient belief . . . thankfully our
government has taken a consistent view that they will not take
unnecessary risks . . .
Nah.Many in New Zealand rely on St. Jacinda of the lying tongue to protect us slowly and late!
No lying, JB, but you do seem inordinately scared - if "Crusher" is
frightening for you just remember to vote for the Labour party like
most people; she will then go away after the election. Or is your fear
because you are linked to the Mt Roskill church?
Not linked to any church Rich. I don't believe in invisible friends or bullshit saints like st Jacinda of the lying tongue! I'm not as gullible or fucking idiotc as you Rich.
I quite look forward to having Collins as PM. She has a record of actually doing things rather than just talking about them like Ardern, the Greens and Winston the utter shit :)
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Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
And you fell for it.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Another example of "open" government.
Of course - a great improvement over the last three years from what
was happening previously.
You should not be so disparaging about the Clark government, it was much better
than this one.
I understand why you would want to pretend that the Key / English
governments did not exist - you may recall Key admitting that National
used the ability to defer answers to OIA requests for their own
political advantage . . .
Whereas Labour just redacts everything before handing over OIA reports.
Interesting that you seem to be admitting the Coalition of Liars aren't as open as St Jacinda of the forked tongue claims.
Interesting that you do not recognise your own words, JohnB - perhaps
they are as forgettable to you as they are to others . . .
Sorry John, my bad. I am rude.
Oh dear, the dimbulb forger at it again. I did not write that
response
We know you didn't Rich. You're to much of a fucking stupid dimbulb to comprehend just how fucking rude you are Rich!
John Bowes
2020-09-14 06:27:32 UTC
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On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 10:13:00 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
<yet another load of comprehensionless fucking garbage>
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Interesting that you do not recognise your own words, JohnB - perhaps
they are as forgettable to you as they are to others . . .
Gordon
2020-09-12 04:54:08 UTC
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
Another example of "open" government.
Let us not forget the 1981 Springboks tour.

Keep sport out of politics.
Tony
2020-09-12 04:57:02 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Tony
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364330
Why the misinformation by the PM?
Another example of "open" government.
Let us not forget the 1981 Springboks tour.
Keep sport out of politics.
Tell that to the PM.
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