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Tackling bigger fish
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Gordon
2020-02-28 04:43:59 UTC
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I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull his
criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy to stand
down.

Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy who the
SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
George
2020-02-28 19:20:09 UTC
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On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
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Rich80105
2020-02-28 20:05:18 UTC
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations

Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
John Bowes
2020-02-28 22:44:37 UTC
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
James Christophers
2020-02-29 03:26:01 UTC
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Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.

But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]

Even better, by so doing, you would also be giving your soulmate George a golden opportunity to better you, whinge for whinge.

[1] Hint: you could start by showing how this government's winter fuel allowance initiative has failed to bring at least some small comfort into your otherwise bleak existence...
John Bowes
2020-02-29 21:29:27 UTC
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Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith? Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Post by James Christophers
Even better, by so doing, you would also be giving your soulmate George a golden opportunity to better you, whinge for whinge.
The best winger in the group is you Keith. Your long winded and stupid attacks on the country you chose to live in show your bleak existence.
Post by James Christophers
[1] Hint: you could start by showing how this government's winter fuel allowance initiative has failed to bring at least some small comfort into your otherwise bleak existence...
Hint: The only mention I've made about the winter fuel initiative was pointing out that your soul mate Winston was happily pocketing it even though in his bleak existence he didn't need it.

I suggest Keith that you get something for your verbal diarrhea because it only shows yo as another pommie bastard with delussions of imortance :)
James Christophers
2020-03-02 00:15:27 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.

And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!


Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.

All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.

And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.

Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.

Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.

Think on...
Rich80105
2020-03-02 01:52:58 UTC
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.
And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.
All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.
And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.
Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.
Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.
Think on...
Good blunt but polite tackling of an issue that needed to be addressed
- albeit not at an international political level!

Thank you for your post
James Christophers
2020-03-02 04:21:54 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 16:15:27 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.
And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.
All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.
And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.
Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.
Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.
Think on...
Good blunt but polite tackling of an issue that needed to be addressed
The same socially destructive economic distortions pervade and bore into the very heart of our economy, particularly the property market where, in pursuit of feathering his own nest and personal favours with the Australian banks, he let rip with uncontrolled immigration, speculation and cheap printed paper with the inevitable knock-on effect on across-the-board prices we have all seen and experienced. Even so, Key obdurately refused to address the problem he himself had, effectively, created and nurtured because he knew he'd piss off both the fast-buck foreign-domiciled "investors" and the growing number of avaricious in-country drive-by speculators and profiteers, an unedifyingly dead-eyed member of which noxious cadre continues smugly to confront him every morning in his bathroom mirror.

Government by the greedy for the greedy.
Post by Rich80105
- albeit not at an international political level!
Well, I'm not sure quite what you mean by the last bit but, essentially, once any nation finds itself insidiously corralled into becoming yet another cash-cow pawn of global transnational corporates, it can never again claim to enjoy any economic independence and sovereignty; nor, in fact, can it enjoy political independence and sovereignty since, for every country, economics and politics are inextricably linked and co-dependent.

In fact, look no further than the so-called 'relationship' between New Zealand and China where, as I said way back well before Clark's signing up to our FTA, "The lamb may lie down with the lion, but the lamb won't get much sleep".

'Nuff said?
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Thank you for your post
You're welcome.
Rich80105
2020-03-02 08:07:59 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:21:54 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 16:15:27 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.
And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.
All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.
And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.
Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.
Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.
Think on...
Good blunt but polite tackling of an issue that needed to be addressed
The same socially destructive economic distortions pervade and bore into the very heart of our economy, particularly the property market where, in pursuit of feathering his own nest and personal favours with the Australian banks, he let rip with uncontrolled immigration, speculation and cheap printed paper with the inevitable knock-on effect on across-the-board prices we have all seen and experienced. Even so, Key obdurately refused to address the problem he himself had, effectively, created and nurtured because he knew he'd piss off both the fast-buck foreign-domiciled "investors" and the growing number of avaricious in-country drive-by speculators and profiteers, an unedifyingly dead-eyed member of which noxious cadre continues smugly to confront him every morning in his bathroom mirror.
Government by the greedy for the greedy.
Post by Rich80105
- albeit not at an international political level!
Well, I'm not sure quite what you mean by the last bit but, essentially, once any nation finds itself insidiously corralled into becoming yet another cash-cow pawn of global transnational corporates, it can never again claim to enjoy any economic independence and sovereignty; nor, in fact, can it enjoy political independence and sovereignty since, for every country, economics and politics are inextricably linked and co-dependent.
I was referring to the decidedly smaller fish of JohnO
Post by James Christophers
In fact, look no further than the so-called 'relationship' between New Zealand and China where, as I said way back well before Clark's signing up to our FTA, "The lamb may lie down with the lion, but the lamb won't get much sleep".
'Nuff said?
I'm not sure how related it is, but the international 'race to the
bottom' by valuing everything by lowest tender has meant the gradual
destruction of our manufacturing industry, leading to the best we can
do when heaps of logs wait on wharves is to just wait, and try to find
forestry workers temporary jobs planting trees. At lest somedairy
companies have seen the sense of some value-added manufacturing; I
gather even Fonterra eventually woke up to the reality that there are
alternatives to milk powder.
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Post by Rich80105
Thank you for your post
You're welcome.
James Christophers
2020-03-03 00:36:58 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 16:15:27 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.
And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.
All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.
And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.
Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.
Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.
Think on...
Good blunt but polite tackling of an issue that needed to be addressed
The same socially destructive economic distortions pervade and bore into the very heart of our economy, particularly the property market where, in pursuit of feathering his own nest and personal favours with the Australian banks, he let rip with uncontrolled immigration, speculation and cheap printed paper with the inevitable knock-on effect on across-the-board prices we have all seen and experienced. Even so, Key obdurately refused to address the problem he himself had, effectively, created and nurtured because he knew he'd piss off both the fast-buck foreign-domiciled "investors" and the growing number of avaricious in-country drive-by speculators and profiteers, an unedifyingly dead-eyed member of which noxious cadre continues smugly to confront him every morning in his bathroom mirror.
Government by the greedy for the greedy.
Post by Rich80105
- albeit not at an international political level!
Well, I'm not sure quite what you mean by the last bit but, essentially, once any nation finds itself insidiously corralled into becoming yet another cash-cow pawn of global transnational corporates, it can never again claim to enjoy any economic independence and sovereignty; nor, in fact, can it enjoy political independence and sovereignty since, for every country, economics and politics are inextricably linked and co-dependent.
I was referring to the decidedly smaller fish of JohnO
Post by James Christophers
In fact, look no further than the so-called 'relationship' between New Zealand and China where, as I said way back well before Clark's signing up to our FTA, "The lamb may lie down with the lion, but the lamb won't get much sleep".
'Nuff said?
I'm not sure how related it is, but the international 'race to the
bottom' by valuing everything by lowest tender has meant the gradual
destruction of our manufacturing industry, leading to the best we can
do when heaps of logs wait on wharves is to just wait, and try to find
forestry workers temporary jobs planting trees.
Make do and mend behaviour; and if this really is the case then it demonstrates to overseas competitors an impotence and passivity that ill befits a nation with commodities as its major competing exports.


At lest somedairy
Post by Rich80105
companies have seen the sense of some value-added manufacturing; I
gather even Fonterra eventually woke up to the reality that there are
alternatives to milk powder.
Yup. Fonterra suddenly woke up and said, "Let's sho Danone and Nestlé how it's done and give the buggers a damned good thrashing." Look how that went!!!

Piss poor management making piss poor policy. Result?

Among New Zealand's dairy companies, in Mid 2019 Fonterra's five-year average return on capital employed was the second worst compared to its four main rivals, with Westland taking the wooden spoon - and we all know what happened to Westland, don't we? And why.

At the same time, A2Milk leapfrogged Fonterra and Auckland International Airport to become the nation’s most valuable listed company.

To paraphrase Hamlet,"Something is rotten in the State of New Zealand Business".
JohnO
2020-03-03 01:46:14 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:21:54 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.
And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.
All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.
And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.
Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.
Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.
Think on...
Good blunt but polite tackling of an issue that needed to be addressed
The same socially destructive economic distortions pervade and bore into the very heart of our economy, particularly the property market where, in pursuit of feathering his own nest and personal favours with the Australian banks, he let rip with uncontrolled immigration, speculation and cheap printed paper with the inevitable knock-on effect on across-the-board prices we have all seen and experienced. Even so, Key obdurately refused to address the problem he himself had, effectively, created and nurtured because he knew he'd piss off both the fast-buck foreign-domiciled "investors" and the growing number of avaricious in-country drive-by speculators and profiteers, an unedifyingly dead-eyed member of which noxious cadre continues smugly to confront him every morning in his bathroom mirror.
Government by the greedy for the greedy.
Post by Rich80105
- albeit not at an international political level!
Well, I'm not sure quite what you mean by the last bit but, essentially, once any nation finds itself insidiously corralled into becoming yet another cash-cow pawn of global transnational corporates, it can never again claim to enjoy any economic independence and sovereignty; nor, in fact, can it enjoy political independence and sovereignty since, for every country, economics and politics are inextricably linked and co-dependent.
I was referring to the decidedly smaller fish of JohnO
Post by James Christophers
In fact, look no further than the so-called 'relationship' between New Zealand and China where, as I said way back well before Clark's signing up to our FTA, "The lamb may lie down with the lion, but the lamb won't get much sleep".
'Nuff said?
I'm not sure how related it is, but the international 'race to the
bottom' by valuing everything by lowest tender has meant the gradual
destruction of our manufacturing industry, leading to the best we can
do when heaps of logs wait on wharves is to just wait, and try to find
forestry workers temporary jobs planting trees.
Make do and mend behaviour; and if this really is the case then it demonstrates to overseas competitors an impotence and passivity that ill befits a nation with commodities as its major competing exports.
At lest somedairy
Post by Rich80105
companies have seen the sense of some value-added manufacturing; I
gather even Fonterra eventually woke up to the reality that there are
alternatives to milk powder.
Yup. Fonterra suddenly woke up and said, "Let's sho Danone and Nestlé how it's done and give the buggers a damned good thrashing." Look how that went!!!
Piss poor management making piss poor policy. Result?
Among New Zealand's dairy companies, in Mid 2019 Fonterra's five-year average return on capital employed was the second worst compared to its four main rivals, with Westland taking the wooden spoon - and we all know what happened to Westland, don't we? And why.
At the same time, A2Milk leapfrogged Fonterra and Auckland International Airport to become the nation’s most valuable listed company.
To paraphrase Hamlet,"Something is rotten in the State of New Zealand Business".
So you'll be investing elsewhere then. Too bad for you as the NZX has massively out-performed other markets such as the ASX and NYSE over the last 5 years.
James Christophers
2020-03-05 00:32:42 UTC
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:21:54 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 16:15:27 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.
And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.
All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.
And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.
Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.
Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.
Think on...
Good blunt but polite tackling of an issue that needed to be addressed
The same socially destructive economic distortions pervade and bore into the very heart of our economy, particularly the property market where, in pursuit of feathering his own nest and personal favours with the Australian banks, he let rip with uncontrolled immigration, speculation and cheap printed paper with the inevitable knock-on effect on across-the-board prices we have all seen and experienced. Even so, Key obdurately refused to address the problem he himself had, effectively, created and nurtured because he knew he'd piss off both the fast-buck foreign-domiciled "investors" and the growing number of avaricious in-country drive-by speculators and profiteers, an unedifyingly dead-eyed member of which noxious cadre continues smugly to confront him every morning in his bathroom mirror.
Government by the greedy for the greedy.
Post by Rich80105
- albeit not at an international political level!
Well, I'm not sure quite what you mean by the last bit but, essentially, once any nation finds itself insidiously corralled into becoming yet another cash-cow pawn of global transnational corporates, it can never again claim to enjoy any economic independence and sovereignty; nor, in fact, can it enjoy political independence and sovereignty since, for every country, economics and politics are inextricably linked and co-dependent.
I was referring to the decidedly smaller fish of JohnO
Post by James Christophers
In fact, look no further than the so-called 'relationship' between New Zealand and China where, as I said way back well before Clark's signing up to our FTA, "The lamb may lie down with the lion, but the lamb won't get much sleep".
'Nuff said?
I'm not sure how related it is, but the international 'race to the
bottom' by valuing everything by lowest tender has meant the gradual
destruction of our manufacturing industry, leading to the best we can
do when heaps of logs wait on wharves is to just wait, and try to find
forestry workers temporary jobs planting trees.
Make do and mend behaviour; and if this really is the case then it demonstrates to overseas competitors an impotence and passivity that ill befits a nation with commodities as its major competing exports.
At lest somedairy
Post by Rich80105
companies have seen the sense of some value-added manufacturing; I
gather even Fonterra eventually woke up to the reality that there are
alternatives to milk powder.
Yup. Fonterra suddenly woke up and said, "Let's sho Danone and Nestlé how it's done and give the buggers a damned good thrashing." Look how that went!!!
Piss poor management making piss poor policy. Result?
Among New Zealand's dairy companies, in Mid 2019 Fonterra's five-year average return on capital employed was the second worst compared to its four main rivals, with Westland taking the wooden spoon - and we all know what happened to Westland, don't we? And why.
At the same time, A2Milk leapfrogged Fonterra and Auckland International Airport to become the nation’s most valuable listed company.
To paraphrase Hamlet,"Something is rotten in the State of New Zealand Business".
So you'll be investing elsewhere then. Too bad for you as the NZX has massively out-performed other markets such as the ASX and NYSE over the last 5 years.
Just another bubble, JohnO.

Doubtless due to robot ETF robots and their operators gaming the mug punter seeking better returns than are to be currently had elsewhere - and there's nothing like that heady combination of fear and greed to keep those ETFs rolling merrily along.

Those who will not learn from history are doomed to make the same mistakes. Never has this been truer than now, in a speculative casino "investment" world based on hype, fraud and sentiment.
John Bowes
2020-03-02 07:01:29 UTC
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
She's just another ignorant Marxist twat like you Rich! A virtue signalling criminal loving photo op seeking twat pursuing a failed political ethos!
It's her alleged pursuit of a failed political ethos that keeps freeloading lifetime dingbats like you fed, watered and medicated.
Since when has Marxism ever been successful Keith?
Being little different from the inherently corrupt, socialism-dependent capitalist corporate system which, collectively, has more than once almost succeeded in bringing the world to the brink of financial collapse, you also are a lifetime beneficiary of socialism of whatever character and colour - even your beloved Marxism if that's what makes your equally brainless donkey bray.
Again you demonstrate your lack of comprehension Keith. Which kindergarten did you receive your superior education from? might have been a good idea to have finished primary school as well.
Post by James Christophers
And nothing you can say or whinge can alter this immutable truth.
Wrong! All you have as usual is fake news Keith. No truth in your rambling diatribe at all! Typical of Fascists like you.
Post by James Christophers
Besides as usual your attack only indicates your embarrassment at fitting that lifestyle like all the other shysters like you!
Embarrassed? Moi? Has no one ever told you that the more mindless crap you spout the less embarrassed about anything anyone need ever feel?
Sorry of course you're not embarrassed at fleecing grandmothers out of their life savings. Whatever was I thinking?
Post by James Christophers
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
But even so, why not now convince us of the validity of your childish rote-whingeing by listing all those unspeakable personal deprivations that she has been heaping on you since the day she made it to top smell? [1]
Increases in the cost of living. Especially of staples!
Then in the case of staples, think only of Market Forces - i.e. classic applied capitalism - represented in New Zealand by capitalistic near-monopolies and duo-monopolies; these being principally foreign - the Australian-owned banks and Australian-owned wholesale food suppliers/middlemen/franchisors.
That's funny Keith. You should have written comedy to London Weekend TV instead of dragging cables around the sound stage.
Post by James Christophers
All of it ramped up since approx 2008 courtesy of that "terribly nice man" and in-the-family-shower-pisser John Key who has received multiple OZ plaudits and gongs for acting as Australia's biddable New Zealand-based placeman (in economic terms a fifth-columnist). His co-machinations have enable the trans-Tasman diggers to mine for their own profit the incomes of every living Kiwi resident in this country - and that includes you.
MWAHAHA you hate successful people don't you Keith? Key was one of the most popular Prime minister we've had in a long time and it gets your little girls bloomers in a knot even now four years after he moved on to bigger and better things. Unlike you who are stuck with having to rely on superannuation because spent your savings on being a tourist in financial disaster zones :)
Post by James Christophers
And with cheap, loose money flooding the system it can never stop but in fact can only continue apace no matter who's running the country. Why? Because it is now a **locked-in process** and irreversible for all time.
Those diggers simply can't believe their blimmin' luck, and neither can economic fifth-columnist John Key who, for his faithful diligence and unswerving loyalty to predatory foreign spivs, was appointed Chairman of ANZ(NZ) only 4 months after quitting his incumbency.
Per client, the Australian banks today make more profit per Kiwi than from their own countrymen.
Think on...
I do Keith and irrespective of the multi barreled words padding yet another attack on those better than you I still find it hard to believe you ever had an education. Let alone a superior one. Btw you need to find something for your hubris. It seems to be overpowering any sense you may have had :)
Crash
2020-03-02 07:16:12 UTC
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Post by George
On 28 Feb 2020 04:43:59 GMT
Post by Gordon
I see that our PM is off across the ditch to to the Ozzie PM to pull
his criminals back. And yet she can not or will not tell her deputy
to stand down.
Labour might start to lose votes if the PM can not tell her deputy
who the SFO are investigating for fraud to stand down.
Ah but he's her crim and she owes him
Indeed tackling bigger fish - a good description
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-ardern-tells-pm-20200228-p545f3.html
and
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410607/do-not-deport-your-people-and-your-problems-pm-jacinda-ardern-on-trans-tasman-relations
Well spken, fair but firm. Had she stupidly threatened to adopt the
Aussie policy Morrison would have taken that as affirmation that
Australia had got their policy right and welcomed New Zealand's
admission that he was "Right" . . .
On this Rich, I agree with you. Ardern has at least registered our
displeasure that convicted criminals that were borne in NZ but brought
up in Australia, many fully educated there and clearly started their
criminal activity as Australian living in Australia are deported to NZ
despite having no whanau here.


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