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Maori Party now a lunatic fringe party
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JohnO
2020-09-13 23:46:02 UTC
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html

The Māori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names replaced with the original Māori

Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.

Complete and utter nutcase party.
George
2020-09-14 00:50:53 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The Māori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to
Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European
names replaced with the original Māori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
They are history.
Turning their back on National which were the only party to cater to
their brief time in the House.
Will their view of history include the tribal divisions that we know
of ????
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Mutlley
2020-09-14 22:50:21 UTC
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
Hopefully they won't be there again.
Crash
2020-09-15 01:45:11 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
The announcement in the Newshub article is all about seeking attention
and differentiating the Maori Party from Labour (as the incumbent). In
reality the Maori Party was and always will be a special interest
party and will never be in a position to form a government, so their
promises are worthy only as a pointer to what their agenda might be
should they get into Parliament.

They may well seek to advance their policies (of which this is one)
but have zero chance of getting anything through unless they hold the
balance of power (as Winston did last time) or the leading government
party adopts their policies. This one in particular is unlikely ever
to see the light of day after the election.

So announcements like are addressed to those on the Maori electoral
roll - they will always need an electorate MP to get into Parliament,
and to do that now they need to beat their Labour opponent.


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Mutlley
2020-09-15 05:18:09 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
The announcement in the Newshub article is all about seeking attention
and differentiating the Maori Party from Labour (as the incumbent). In
reality the Maori Party was and always will be a special interest
party and will never be in a position to form a government, so their
promises are worthy only as a pointer to what their agenda might be
should they get into Parliament.
They may well seek to advance their policies (of which this is one)
but have zero chance of getting anything through unless they hold the
balance of power (as Winston did last time) or the leading government
party adopts their policies. This one in particular is unlikely ever
to see the light of day after the election.
So announcements like are addressed to those on the Maori electoral
roll - they will always need an electorate MP to get into Parliament,
and to do that now they need to beat their Labour opponent.
You're correct but the name change seems to be getting done under
stealth. TVNZ has stopped using New Zealand and only seems to use
Aotearoa and the name Auckland seems to be endangered there as well .
Crash
2020-09-15 05:47:17 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
The announcement in the Newshub article is all about seeking attention
and differentiating the Maori Party from Labour (as the incumbent). In
reality the Maori Party was and always will be a special interest
party and will never be in a position to form a government, so their
promises are worthy only as a pointer to what their agenda might be
should they get into Parliament.
They may well seek to advance their policies (of which this is one)
but have zero chance of getting anything through unless they hold the
balance of power (as Winston did last time) or the leading government
party adopts their policies. This one in particular is unlikely ever
to see the light of day after the election.
So announcements like are addressed to those on the Maori electoral
roll - they will always need an electorate MP to get into Parliament,
and to do that now they need to beat their Labour opponent.
You're correct but the name change seems to be getting done under
stealth. TVNZ has stopped using New Zealand and only seems to use
Aotearoa and the name Auckland seems to be endangered there as well .
This week only:
https://www.tewikiotereomaori.co.nz/


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George
2020-09-15 20:00:37 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:18:09 +1200
Post by Mutlley
Post by Crash
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand
to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their
European names replaced with the original M?ori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
The announcement in the Newshub article is all about seeking
attention and differentiating the Maori Party from Labour (as the
incumbent). In reality the Maori Party was and always will be a
special interest party and will never be in a position to form a
government, so their promises are worthy only as a pointer to what
their agenda might be should they get into Parliament.
They may well seek to advance their policies (of which this is one)
but have zero chance of getting anything through unless they hold the
balance of power (as Winston did last time) or the leading government
party adopts their policies. This one in particular is unlikely ever
to see the light of day after the election.
So announcements like are addressed to those on the Maori electoral
roll - they will always need an electorate MP to get into Parliament,
and to do that now they need to beat their Labour opponent.
You're correct but the name change seems to be getting done under
stealth. TVNZ has stopped using New Zealand and only seems to use
Aotearoa and the name Auckland seems to be endangered there as well .
I wonder which of the many dialects is the 'correct' one ???
And why, suddenly everything is "Maorified'
Is it university lead ?
Because 3% speak a language the 97% who dont will be unable to
understand weather reports.
One good thing is fake news will become even more indecipherable
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Rich80105
2020-09-16 05:36:46 UTC
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Post by George
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:18:09 +1200
Post by Mutlley
Post by Crash
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand
to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their
European names replaced with the original M?ori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
The announcement in the Newshub article is all about seeking
attention and differentiating the Maori Party from Labour (as the
incumbent). In reality the Maori Party was and always will be a
special interest party and will never be in a position to form a
government, so their promises are worthy only as a pointer to what
their agenda might be should they get into Parliament.
They may well seek to advance their policies (of which this is one)
but have zero chance of getting anything through unless they hold the
balance of power (as Winston did last time) or the leading government
party adopts their policies. This one in particular is unlikely ever
to see the light of day after the election.
So announcements like are addressed to those on the Maori electoral
roll - they will always need an electorate MP to get into Parliament,
and to do that now they need to beat their Labour opponent.
You're correct but the name change seems to be getting done under
stealth. TVNZ has stopped using New Zealand and only seems to use
Aotearoa and the name Auckland seems to be endangered there as well .
I wonder which of the many dialects is the 'correct' one ???
Does there need to be a correct one - we stopped thinking that way
about ''received pronunciation" for English many years ago.
Post by George
And why, suddenly everything is "Maorified'
Maori week?
Post by George
Is it university lead ?
No led, but certainly some in universities have supported it.
Post by George
Because 3% speak a language the 97% who dont will be unable to
understand weather reports.
I don't speak Maori but have had no problems with getting a weather
report. What problem did you have, George?
Post by George
One good thing is fake news will become even more indecipherable
Nellie the Elephant
2020-09-16 20:28:06 UTC
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Post by George
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:18:09 +1200
Post by Mutlley
Post by Crash
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand
to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their
European names replaced with the original M?ori
Te Reo Maori incorporated into 50% of school curriculum.
Complete and utter nutcase party.
The announcement in the Newshub article is all about seeking
attention and differentiating the Maori Party from Labour (as the
incumbent). In reality the Maori Party was and always will be a
special interest party and will never be in a position to form a
government, so their promises are worthy only as a pointer to what
their agenda might be should they get into Parliament.
They may well seek to advance their policies (of which this is one)
but have zero chance of getting anything through unless they hold the
balance of power (as Winston did last time) or the leading government
party adopts their policies. This one in particular is unlikely ever
to see the light of day after the election.
So announcements like are addressed to those on the Maori electoral
roll - they will always need an electorate MP to get into Parliament,
and to do that now they need to beat their Labour opponent.
You're correct but the name change seems to be getting done under
stealth. TVNZ has stopped using New Zealand and only seems to use
Aotearoa and the name Auckland seems to be endangered there as well .
I wonder which of the many dialects is the 'correct' one ???
Does there need to be a correct one - we stopped thinking that way
about ''received pronunciation" for English many years ago.
Post by George
And why, suddenly everything is "Maorified'
Maori week?
Post by George
Is it university lead ?
No led, but certainly some in universities have supported it.
Post by George
Because 3% speak a language the 97% who dont will be unable to
understand weather reports.
I don't speak Maori but have had no problems with getting a weather
report. What problem did you have, George?
What a rude prick you are.
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
One good thing is fake news will become even more indecipherable
Byker
2020-09-24 22:02:16 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The Māori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to
Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names
replaced with the original Māori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Dave Smith
2020-09-24 23:12:25 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The Māori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to
Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names
replaced with the original Māori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be used
to mark place names.
Dechucka
2020-09-24 23:18:34 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The Māori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to
Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names
replaced with the original Māori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be used
to mark place names.
They had an oral tradition of passing down information. It is as valid
as any other system.
Petzl
2020-09-24 23:47:46 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to
Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names
replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be used
to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
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Dechucka
2020-09-25 00:05:15 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to
Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names
replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be used
to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
Where did you plagiarise that from?
Petzl
2020-09-25 01:33:07 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand to
Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their European names
replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be used
to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
Where did you plagiarise that from?
A rightwing paper
<https://nzhistory.govt.nz/culture/maori-language-week/history-of-the-maori-language>
https://is.gd/ltUcVd
One land, many dialects
no written language, but the symbolic meanings embodied in carving,
knots and weaving were widely understood.
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Dechucka
2020-09-25 01:52:22 UTC
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Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
Where did you plagiarise that from?
A rightwing paper
<https://nzhistory.govt.nz/culture/maori-language-week/history-of-the-maori-language>
https://is.gd/ltUcV
If you use peoples work acknowledge it or it is plagiarism. It is
obvious when you plagiarise something as it is logical and coherent
Dhu on Gate
2020-09-25 22:54:43 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
Where did you plagiarise that from?
A rightwing paper
<https://nzhistory.govt.nz/culture/maori-language-week/history-of-the-maori-language>
https://is.gd/ltUcV
If you use peoples work acknowledge it or it is plagiarism. It is
obvious when you plagiarise something as it is logical and coherent
The (re)use of ideas is no plagiarism but the stuff of Liberty.
You can plagiarise all you want but it's still your own bad spalling.

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George
2020-09-25 20:09:33 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have
their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be
used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
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Dechucka
2020-09-25 20:10:48 UTC
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Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have
their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be
used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
obviously yes
Dave Smith
2020-09-25 21:12:24 UTC
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Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Well, there's an inconvenient truth. Around the time Europeans first
came to the Niagara area there was tribe called the Neutrals. They got
wiped out in the expansion of the Iroquois into Huron territory. It was
a more violent genocide than any native band in Canada faced from the
Europeans.
Dechucka
2020-09-25 21:25:12 UTC
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Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Well, there's an inconvenient truth. Around the time Europeans first
came to the Niagara area
There were Maori in N America?
Post by Dave Smith
there was tribe called the Neutrals.
You mean the Attawandaron don't you rather than what the French called them?
Post by Dave Smith
They got
wiped out in the expansion of the Iroquois into Huron territory.
They had before that been devastated by smallpox and measles bought in
by the Europeans
Post by Dave Smith
It was
a more violent genocide than any native band in Canada faced from the
Europeans.
Your point is what?
Dave Smith
2020-09-25 21:48:24 UTC
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Post by Dave Smith
Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Well, there's an inconvenient truth. Around the time Europeans first
came to the Niagara area
There were Maori in N America?
Post by Dave Smith
there was tribe called the Neutrals.
You mean the Attawandaron don't you rather than what the French called them?
Post by Dave Smith
They got wiped out in the expansion of the Iroquois into Huron territory.
They had before that been devastated by smallpox and measles bought in
by the Europeans
They caught European diseases long before the Europeans where here?
Pull the other one. The Iroquois had had more contact with the Europeans
than the Neutrals or Huron had Even if that were true, that would have
meant that the exploited a tragedy to commit their atrocity.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
It was a more violent genocide than any native band in Canada faced
from the Europeans.
Your point is what?
Lost on you?
Dechucka
2020-09-25 21:56:32 UTC
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Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Well, there's an inconvenient truth. Around the time Europeans first
came to the Niagara area
There were Maori in N America?
Post by Dave Smith
there was tribe called the Neutrals.
You mean the Attawandaron don't you rather than what the French called them?
Post by Dave Smith
They got wiped out in the expansion of the Iroquois into Huron territory.
They had before that been devastated by smallpox and measles bought in
by the Europeans
They caught European diseases long before the Europeans where here?
The Beaver War was 1650, Jesuit priests were studying their language in
the early 1600s. As I'm sure you know, lol,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Wars

The Iroquois sought to expand their territory into the Ohio Country and
to monopolize the fur trade with European markets. They originally were
a confederacy of the Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca tribes
inhabiting the lands in Upstate New York along the shores of Lake
Ontario east to Lake Champlain and Lake George on the Hudson river, and
the lower-estuary of the Saint Lawrence River. The Iroquois
Confederation led by the Mohawks mobilized against the largely
Algonquian-speaking tribes and Iroquoian-speaking Huron and related
tribes of the Great Lakes region. The Iroquois were armed by their Dutch
and English trading partners; the Algonquians and Hurons were backed by
the French, their chief trading partner.

The Iroquois effectively destroyed several large tribal confederacies,
including the Mahicans (Mohicans), Huron (Wyandot), Neutral, Erie,
Susquehannock (Conestoga), and northern Algonquins. They became dominant
in the region and enlarged their territory, realigning the American
tribal geography. The Iroquois gained control of the New England
frontier and Ohio River valley lands as hunting ground from about 1670
onward.
Post by Dave Smith
Pull
the other one. The Iroquois had had more contact with the Europeans than
the Neutrals or Huron had Even if that were true, that would have meant
that the exploited a tragedy to commit their atrocity.
So they did have contact with Europeans before the Beaver War, you know
the one were they were armed by Europeans
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
It was a more violent genocide than any native band in Canada faced
from the Europeans.
Your point is what?
Lost on you?
So please explain your poin
Dave Smith
2020-09-25 22:30:07 UTC
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Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Well, there's an inconvenient truth. Around the time Europeans first
came to the Niagara area
There were Maori in N America?
Post by Dave Smith
there was tribe called the Neutrals.
You mean the Attawandaron don't you rather than what the French called them?
Post by Dave Smith
They got wiped out in the expansion of the Iroquois into Huron territory.
They had before that been devastated by smallpox and measles bought
in by the Europeans
They caught European diseases long before the Europeans where here?
The Beaver War was 1650, Jesuit priests were studying their language in
the early 1600s. As I'm sure you know, lol,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Wars
The Iroquois sought to expand their territory into the Ohio Country and
to monopolize the fur trade with European markets. They originally were
a confederacy of the Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca tribes
inhabiting the lands in Upstate New York along the shores of Lake
Ontario east to Lake Champlain and Lake George on the Hudson river, and
the lower-estuary of the Saint Lawrence River. The Iroquois
Confederation led by the Mohawks mobilized against the largely
Algonquian-speaking tribes and Iroquoian-speaking Huron and related
tribes of the Great Lakes region. The Iroquois were armed by their Dutch
and English trading partners; the Algonquians and Hurons were backed by
the French, their chief trading partner.
The Iroquois effectively destroyed several large tribal confederacies,
including the Mahicans (Mohicans), Huron (Wyandot), Neutral, Erie,
Susquehannock (Conestoga), and northern Algonquins. They became dominant
in the region and enlarged their territory, realigning the American
tribal geography. The Iroquois gained control of the New England
frontier and Ohio River valley lands as hunting ground from about 1670
onward.
Post by Dave Smith
Pull the other one. The Iroquois had had more contact with the
Europeans than the Neutrals or Huron had Even if that were true, that
would have meant that the exploited a tragedy to commit their atrocity.
So they did have contact with Europeans before the Beaver War, you know
the one were they were armed by Europeans
As your article indicates, the Iroquois had more contact with the
Europeans. The Beaver Was started years before the French explored the
Niagara area.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
It was a more violent genocide than any native band in Canada faced
from the Europeans.
Your point is what?
Lost on you?
So please explain your poin
Dechucka
2020-09-25 23:13:12 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Well, there's an inconvenient truth. Around the time Europeans
first came to the Niagara area
There were Maori in N America?
Post by Dave Smith
there was tribe called the Neutrals.
You mean the Attawandaron don't you rather than what the French called them?
Post by Dave Smith
They got wiped out in the expansion of the Iroquois into Huron territory.
They had before that been devastated by smallpox and measles bought
in by the Europeans
They caught European diseases long before the Europeans where here?
The Beaver War was 1650, Jesuit priests were studying their language
in the early 1600s. As I'm sure you know, lol,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Wars
The Iroquois sought to expand their territory into the Ohio Country
and to monopolize the fur trade with European markets. They originally
were a confederacy of the Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca
tribes inhabiting the lands in Upstate New York along the shores of
Lake Ontario east to Lake Champlain and Lake George on the Hudson
river, and the lower-estuary of the Saint Lawrence River. The Iroquois
Confederation led by the Mohawks mobilized against the largely
Algonquian-speaking tribes and Iroquoian-speaking Huron and related
tribes of the Great Lakes region. The Iroquois were armed by their
Dutch and English trading partners; the Algonquians and Hurons were
backed by the French, their chief trading partner.
The Iroquois effectively destroyed several large tribal confederacies,
including the Mahicans (Mohicans), Huron (Wyandot), Neutral, Erie,
Susquehannock (Conestoga), and northern Algonquins. They became
dominant in the region and enlarged their territory, realigning the
American tribal geography. The Iroquois gained control of the New
England frontier and Ohio River valley lands as hunting ground from
about 1670 onward.
Post by Dave Smith
Pull the other one. The Iroquois had had more contact with the
Europeans than the Neutrals or Huron had Even if that were true, that
would have meant that the exploited a tragedy to commit their atrocity.
So they did have contact with Europeans before the Beaver War, you
know the one were they were armed by Europeans
As your article indicates, the Iroquois had more contact with the
Europeans.
So what? You claimed there was no contact
Post by Dave Smith
The Beaver Was started years before the French explored the
Niagara area.
The Attawandaron had contact with Europeans before the Beaver War and
thus suffered from smallpox and measles. The war was about trade with
the French so they were obviously in the region, remember both sides
were armed by the Europeans.
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dave Smith
It was a more violent genocide than any native band in Canada faced
from the Europeans.
Your point is what?
Lost on you?
So please explain your point
You obviously can't explain your pointt
Byker
2020-09-25 23:05:49 UTC
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Well, there's an inconvenient truth. Around the time Europeans first came
to the Niagara area there was tribe called the Neutrals. They got wiped
out in the expansion of the Iroquois into Huron territory. It was a more
violent genocide than any native band in Canada faced from the Europeans.
Enough survived to make it to Oklahoma Territory:
https://www.wyandotte-nation.org/culture/petun-research-institute/on-the-survival-of-the-neutrals/
Petzl
2020-09-25 23:32:20 UTC
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Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have
their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be
used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were widely
understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Yes
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but difficult to convince them that they HAVE been fooled!"
George
2020-09-26 19:25:24 UTC
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Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have
their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be
used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were
widely understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Yes
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)

Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
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Petzl
2020-09-26 22:31:44 UTC
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Post by George
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:32:20 +1000
Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have
their European names replaced with the original M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be
used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were
widely understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars that
seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings' history ??
Yes
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
Go to the nearest marae you will see Maori place names there.
https://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/marae-maori-meeting-grounds/

As to the Moriori legends they may not be true?
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-08-2018/the-moriori-myth-and-why-its-still-with-us/>
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Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
George
2020-09-27 02:26:34 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by George
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:32:20 +1000
Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will
have their European names replaced with the original
M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could
be used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were
widely understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars
that seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings'
history ??
Yes
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
Go to the nearest marae you will see Maori place names there.
https://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/marae-maori-meeting-grounds/
As to the Moriori legends they may not be true?
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-08-2018/the-moriori-myth-and-why-its-still-with-us/>
Maori-ori are the people who once populated the Chatham Islands until
their massacre...


In 1835 some displaced Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama, from the Taranaki region, but living in Wellington, invaded the Chathams. On 19 November 1835, the brig Lord Rodney, a hijacked European ship, arrived carrying 500 Māori (men, women and children) with guns, clubs and axes, and loaded with 78 tonnes of potatoes for planting, followed by another load, by the same ship, of 400 more Māori on 5 December 1835. Before the second shipment of people arrived, the invaders killed a 12-year-old girl and hung her flesh on posts. They proceeded to enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others. With the arrival of the second group "parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting. If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals."

A hui or council of Moriori elders was convened at the settlement
called Te Awapatiki. Despite knowing that the Māori did not share their
pacifism, and despite the admonition by some of the elder chiefs that
the principle of Nunuku was not appropriate now, two chiefs — Tapata
and Torea — declared that "the law of Nunuku was not a strategy for
survival, to be varied as conditions changed; it was a moral
imperative." Although this council decided in favour of peace, the
invading Māori inferred it was a prelude to war, as was common practice
during the Musket Wars. This precipitated a massacre, most complete in
the Waitangi area followed by an enslavement of the Moriori
survivors.

A Moriori survivor recalled : "[The Māori] commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed – men, women and children indiscriminately." A Māori conqueror explained, "We took possession... in accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one escaped....." The invaders ritually killed some 10% of the population, a ritual that included staking out women and children on the beach and leaving them to die in great pain over several days.

During the following enslavement the Māori invaders forbade the
speaking of the Moriori language. They forced Moriori to desecrate
their sacred sites by urinating and defecating on them. Moriori
were forbidden to marry Moriori or Māori, or to have children with each
other. This was different from the customary form of slavery practiced
on mainland New Zealand. However, many Moriori women had children
by their Māori masters. A small number of Moriori women eventually
married either Māori or European men. Some were taken from the Chathams
and never returned. In 1842 a small party of Māori and their Moriori
slaves migrated to the subantarctic Auckland Islands, surviving for
some 20 years on sealing and flax growing. Only 101 Moriori out of
a population of about 2,000 were left alive by 1862.
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2020-09-27 02:48:58 UTC
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Post by George
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:31:44 +1000
Post by Petzl
Post by George
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:32:20 +1000
Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will
have their European names replaced with the original
M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could
be used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were
widely understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars
that seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings'
history ??
Yes
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
Go to the nearest marae you will see Maori place names there.
https://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/marae-maori-meeting-grounds/
As to the Moriori legends they may not be true?
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-08-2018/the-moriori-myth-and-why-its-still-with-us/>
Maori-ori are the people who once populated the Chatham Islands until
their massacre...
your point is what?

If I want to read wiki I can without someone plagiarising it snip
Petzl
2020-09-27 04:28:44 UTC
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Post by George
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:31:44 +1000
Post by Petzl
Post by George
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:32:20 +1000
Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will
have their European names replaced with the original
M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could
be used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were
widely understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars
that seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings'
history ??
Yes
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
Go to the nearest marae you will see Maori place names there.
https://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/marae-maori-meeting-grounds/
As to the Moriori legends they may not be true?
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-08-2018/the-moriori-myth-and-why-its-still-with-us/>
Maori-ori are the people who once populated the Chatham Islands until
their massacre...
your point is what?
If I want to read wiki I can without someone plagiarising it snip
You always are against persons finding facts and stating them
You a wog just hate white people!
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Dechucker
YOU ARE JUST A LYING SPINING DECEITFUL MAGGOT WOG!
You never knew or know either Latham or me
What papers do you read obiously no Australian ones
Probably only Arab or Turk one
Dechucka
2020-09-27 04:56:35 UTC
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snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by George
Maori-ori are the people who once populated the Chatham Islands until
their massacre...
your point is what?
If I want to read wiki I can without someone plagiarising it snip
You always are against persons finding facts and stating them
What was his point?
Post by Petzl
You a wog
No I ain't
Post by Petzl
just hate white people!
self hate is what you're into, justifiably I might add, but not me who
is the centre of the universe.
Ördög
2020-09-27 02:52:57 UTC
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George declared
snip
Relevance to Australia ... big fat zero.
Stop xposting this rant!
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Beware:
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Rich80105
2020-09-27 03:31:51 UTC
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Post by George
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:31:44 +1000
Post by Petzl
Post by George
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:32:20 +1000
Post by George
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:47:46 +1000
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Byker
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The M?ori Party says if it is elected they will rename New
Zealand to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will
have their European names replaced with the original
M?ori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could
be used to mark place names.
Symbolic meanings embodied in carving, knots and weaving were
widely understood.
And did those placenames survive the murderous inter tribal wars
that seem to be missing from this 'symbolic meanings'
history ??
Yes
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
Go to the nearest marae you will see Maori place names there.
https://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/marae-maori-meeting-grounds/
As to the Moriori legends they may not be true?
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-08-2018/the-moriori-myth-and-why-its-still-with-us/>
Maori-ori are the people who once populated the Chatham Islands until
their massacre...
In 1835 some displaced Ng?ti Mutunga and Ng?ti Tama, from the Taranaki region, but living in Wellington, invaded the Chathams. On 19 November 1835, the brig Lord Rodney, a hijacked European ship, arrived carrying 500 M?ori (men, women and children) with guns, clubs and axes, and loaded with 78 tonnes of potatoes for planting, followed by another load, by the same ship, of 400 more M?ori on 5 December 1835. Before the second shipment of people arrived, the invaders killed a 12-year-old girl and hung her flesh on posts. They proceeded to enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others. With the arrival of the second group "parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting. If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals."
A hui or council of Moriori elders was convened at the settlement
called Te Awapatiki. Despite knowing that the M?ori did not share their
pacifism, and despite the admonition by some of the elder chiefs that
the principle of Nunuku was not appropriate now, two chiefs — Tapata
and Torea — declared that "the law of Nunuku was not a strategy for
survival, to be varied as conditions changed; it was a moral
imperative." Although this council decided in favour of peace, the
invading M?ori inferred it was a prelude to war, as was common practice
during the Musket Wars. This precipitated a massacre, most complete in
the Waitangi area followed by an enslavement of the Moriori
survivors.
A Moriori survivor recalled : "[The M?ori] commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed – men, women and children indiscriminately." A M?ori conqueror explained, "We took possession... in accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one escaped....." The invaders ritually killed some 10% of the population, a ritual that included staking out women and children on the beach and leaving them to die in great pain over several days.
During the following enslavement the M?ori invaders forbade the
speaking of the Moriori language. They forced Moriori to desecrate
their sacred sites by urinating and defecating on them. Moriori
were forbidden to marry Moriori or M?ori, or to have children with each
other. This was different from the customary form of slavery practiced
on mainland New Zealand. However, many Moriori women had children
by their M?ori masters. A small number of Moriori women eventually
married either M?ori or European men. Some were taken from the Chathams
and never returned. In 1842 a small party of M?ori and their Moriori
slaves migrated to the subantarctic Auckland Islands, surviving for
some 20 years on sealing and flax growing. Only 101 Moriori out of
a population of about 2,000 were left alive by 1862.
I suspect discussion in this thread is not being helped by
distribution also to can.politics, soc.culture.canada, nz.politics and
aus.politics.
Petzl
2020-09-27 04:26:40 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by George
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
Go to the nearest marae you will see Maori place names there.
https://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/marae-maori-meeting-grounds/
As to the Moriori legends they may not be true?
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-08-2018/the-moriori-myth-and-why-its-still-with-us/>
Maori-ori are the people who once populated the Chatham Islands until
their massacre...
snip read link
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori#Invasion_by_Taranaki_Maori_(1835–1868)>

Yes clash of ideals supported by the "Woke" brigade
You know where Taranaki is and the distance to Chatham Islands?
Australia is closer from Wanganui
In 1835 NZ was part of the colony NSW Australia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori#Invasion_by_Taranaki_Maori_(1835–1868)>

There is little doubt in my mind that the same would be dealt to
Europeans by so-called Maori reactionaries, if they can.
NZ Government is helping them in doing this.

Really, NZ'ers need to learn from the Maori and exterminate those and
the families of those doing this! They are your REAL enemy!
Same happened in Norway a while ago.

Some quotes from
Anders Behring Breivik (ABB)
"I know that there are hundreds, even thousands of incidents per year
(I have personally witnessed around 50 incidents) where ethnic
Norwegian youths ranging 14-18 are harassed, beaten, raped and robbed
and it's getting worse every year."

"Oslo used to be a peaceful city. Thanks to the Norwegian cultural
Marxist/multicultural regime they have transformed my beloved city
into a broken city, a bunkered society, a multicultural shit hole
where no one is safe anymore, to use blunt language."

"It is meaningless to participate in the Democratic process when you
are not allowed to raise important issues without being subjected to
political and social persecution through stigmatization and ridicule.
It is time to acknowledge that we the cultural conservatives of
Western Europe, are deceiving ourselves to believe that it is remotely
possible to change the system democratically."

"There is no freedom of speech in Europe. If you don't cheer and
embrace your own annihilation you are a racist bigot, an enemy of the
establishment and must be suppressed, ridiculed, undermined and
persecuted."

"In order to successfully penetrate the cultural Marxist/multicultural
media censorship we are forced to employ significantly more brutal and
breath taking operations which will result in causalities. In order
for the attack to gain an influential effect, assassinations and the
use of weapons of mass destruction must be embraced."

"The primary goal of the shock attacks is not the immediate physical
manifestation of the attack (destroying a few buildings, Killing a few
hundred traitors) but rather the indirect effects. Shock attacks will
have the potency to penetrate the strict censorship regime of the
cultural Marxists/multicultural."

"unfortunately, spectacular operations like these are the only way to
be heard. Everything else we have tried has failed and yielded
nothing. The Muslims showed us that deadly shock attacks are the only
tool we have at the moment which will guarantee that our voice is
heard."
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."
https://is.gd/Nn2qz6
Dechucka
2020-09-27 05:05:03 UTC
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Post by George
Post by Petzl
Post by George
Your evidence is ...............
There are many 'renamed' promontories throughout NZ pre European.
And many relics of exterminated peoples... (for example the
extermination attempt of the Maori-ori)
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
Go to the nearest marae you will see Maori place names there.
https://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/marae-maori-meeting-grounds/
As to the Moriori legends they may not be true?
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-08-2018/the-moriori-myth-and-why-its-still-with-us/>
Maori-ori are the people who once populated the Chatham Islands until
their massacre...
snip read link
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori#Invasion_by_Taranaki_Maori_(1835–1868)>
Yes clash of ideals supported by the "Woke" brigade
There was a 'woke brigade' in 1835
Post by Petzl
You know where Taranaki is and the distance to Chatham Islands?
909km
Post by Petzl
Australia is closer from Wanganui
2000km, you seem to be wrong
Post by Petzl
In 1835 NZ was part of the colony NSW Australia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori#Invasion_by_Taranaki_Maori_(1835–1868)>
There is little doubt in my mind that the same would be dealt to
Europeans by so-called Maori reactionaries, if they can.
NZ Government is helping them in doing this.
How?
Post by Petzl
Really, NZ'ers need to learn from the Maori and exterminate those and
the families of those doing this! They are your REAL enemy!
Who do you want exterminated now?
Post by Petzl
Same happened in Norway a while ago.
Some quotes from
Anders Behring Breivik (ABB)
WOW the kiddy killer, do you want to cite Mein Kampf as well
snip
Petzl
2020-09-27 05:15:17 UTC
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You know where Taranaki is and the distance to Chatham Islands?
909km
Post by Petzl
Australia is closer from Wanganui
2000km, you seem to be wrong
Nope the shortest distance is a straight line,
From Tarinaki to *sail* in 1835, there would be sailing down to the
bottom of South Island fitdt, then to Chatham Islands
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Dechucker
YOU ARE JUST A LYING SPINING DECEITFUL MAGGOT WOG!
You never knew or know either Latham or me
What papers do you read obiously no Australian ones
Probably only Arab or Turk one
Dechucka
2020-09-27 05:30:56 UTC
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Post by Petzl
You know where Taranaki is and the distance to Chatham Islands?
909km
Post by Petzl
Australia is closer from Wanganui
2000km, you seem to be wrong
Nope the shortest distance is a straight line,
It is, WELL DONE!!!! and that distance is 909 Km, Australia to Wanganui
2000km
Post by Petzl
From Tarinaki to *sail* in 1835, there would be sailing down to the
bottom of South Island fitdt, then to Chatham Islands
Why not go straight from Wellington, where the Maoris were living, to
the Chatham Islands which is about 770 kms.
Byker
2020-09-26 23:20:28 UTC
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Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.

Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?

In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."

Example: I wonder if they took scalps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow_Creek_massacre

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Dechucka
2020-09-26 23:30:09 UTC
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Post by George
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.
Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?
In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."
and that justifies it does it?
Post by Byker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow_Creek_massacre
https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/9v7frjvi83z8pvq/images/3-8c1fa799cf.jpg
Your point is what?
Petzl
2020-09-26 23:49:19 UTC
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Post by George
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.
Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?
In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Byker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow_Creek_massacre
https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/9v7frjvi83z8pvq/images/3-8c1fa799cf.jpg
Your point is what?
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Ördög
2020-09-27 00:18:47 UTC
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Petz
Dechucka
ByKKKer flush
/snip/
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
BS
You white supremacist fantasies are from an alternate reality.
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Not too long if/when your hero Trump starts a nuclear war with China
which fucks up the whole planet.
Multiculturalism is just a code word for White Genocide.
Alt-right white supremacist propaganda delusions. Pathetic.
Of course, there is absolutely no facts which would support such a
ridiculous assertion.
Your point is what?
Neo-Nazi troll, ByKKKer has none, beyond spreading white supremacist and
anti-Left propaganda into as many Anglophone newsgroups as possible.

He is a troll who should completely be denied any newsgroup oxygen.
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- idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham
- LNP propaganda sock clones of B.J. Foster

- LJH /Little Johnny Howard family of sock and meat puppets/
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& whatever.../

- septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
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2020-09-27 01:23:16 UTC
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Petz
Dechucka
ByKKKer flush
/snip/
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
BS
You white supremacist fantasies are from an alternate reality.
And just plain silly coming from pretzel who's claimed to be an
Aboriginal. That claim was probably just another of his lies like his
claims to owning a machine gun, grenades, a tank and all the other
things he's claimed.
Post by Ördög
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Not too long if/when your hero Trump starts a nuclear war with China
which fucks up the whole planet.
Multiculturalism is just a code word for White Genocide.
Alt-right white supremacist propaganda delusions. Pathetic.
How many times have we told the idiot that he'd be a target of the
alt.right group given his claims to be Aboriginal? Must be dozens of
times but yet he's still an alt.right, QAnon fanboi.
Dechucka
2020-09-27 01:06:03 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Byker
Post by George
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.
Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?
In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
How is thereverse happening and the reverse of what?
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Petzl
2020-09-27 01:12:38 UTC
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Post by Byker
Post by George
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.
Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?
In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
How is thereverse happening and the reverse of what?
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!

Australia has a Christian culture Anglican to be exact.

White people used to make up 30% of the world’s population but now
make up just 8% and falling. Millions of non-whites are being flooded
into every white majority country and assimilated with ‘Multicultural’
programs.
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Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.
Dechucka
2020-09-27 01:18:37 UTC
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Post by Byker
Post by George
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.
Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?
In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
How is thereverse happening and the reverse of what?
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
We certainly are multicultural just go down to China town at Chinese New
Year
Post by Petzl
Australia has a Christian culture Anglican to be exact.
Certainly the white history of Australia is based on a judeo-christian
background but things are changing and religion in general means bugger
all to the average person.
Post by Petzl
White people used to make up 30% of the world’s population but now
make up just 8% and falling.
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans? Try not to snip this time without
acknowledgement.
Post by Petzl
Millions of non-whites are being flooded
into every white majority country and assimilated with ‘Multicultural’
programs.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
Petzl
2020-09-27 01:29:28 UTC
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Post by Byker
Post by George
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.
Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?
In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
How is thereverse happening and the reverse of what?
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
We certainly are multicultural just go down to China town at Chinese New
Year
Good fun. but don't make Australian multicultural
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Australia has a Christian culture Anglican to be exact.
Certainly the white history of Australia is based on a judeo-christian
background but things are changing and religion in general means bugger
all to the average person.
Major Majority of Australians that choose to state at Census
(Voluntary question) time they are Christian
<https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/***@.nsf/mediareleasesbyReleaseDate/8497F7A8E7DB5BEFCA25821800203DA4?OpenDocument>
Christianity is once again the dominant religion in Australia, with 12
million people, and 86 per cent of religious Australians, identifying
as Christians.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
White people used to make up 30% of the world’s population but now
make up just 8% and falling.
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans? Try not to snip this time without
acknowledgement.
Facts are White Christian Anglo Saxons are behind the building every
great successful nation.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Millions of non-whites are being flooded
into every white majority country and assimilated with ‘Multicultural’
programs.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
Not with the invasion of Moslems it hasn't, very much the reverse
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Dechucka
2020-09-27 01:49:17 UTC
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Post by George
Can I interest you in archaeology.
Most history is only a spade depth away
If only they would dare dig, which they won't.
Ever notice that the American Indian Movement never says shit about all the
inter-tribal massacres that took place before the palefaces arrived?
In the 2007 HBO docudrama "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Chief Sitting
Bull complains to a U.S. Army colonel about Whites' violent treatment of the
Indians. The colonel retorts, "You were killing each other for hundreds of
moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent."
and that justifies it does it?
Yes the reverse is happening now!
How is thereverse happening and the reverse of what?
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
We certainly are multicultural just go down to China town at Chinese New
Year
Good fun. but don't make Australian multicultural
We already are, just go down to China town at Chinese New Year
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Australia has a Christian culture Anglican to be exact.
Certainly the white history of Australia is based on a judeo-christian
background but things are changing and religion in general means bugger
all to the average person.
Major Majority of Australians that choose to state at Census
(Voluntary question) time they are Christian
but not anglican, I see the numbers are going down
Post by Petzl
Christianity is once again the dominant religion in Australia, with 12
million people, and 86 per cent of religious Australians, identifying
as Christians.
I see no religion has increased to 6,933,708
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
White people used to make up 30% of the world’s population but now
make up just 8% and falling.
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans? Try not to snip this time without
acknowledgement.
Facts are White Christian Anglo Saxons are behind the building every
great successful nation.
Bullshit what about the Roman Empires, the Greeks, the Aztecs the
Chinese etc?
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Millions of non-whites are being flooded
into every white majority country and assimilated with ‘Multicultural’
programs.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
Not with the invasion of Moslems it hasn't, very much the reverse
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and see
the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food, the
traditions are a great addition to Australia.
George
2020-09-27 02:30:06 UTC
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OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
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2020-09-27 02:44:21 UTC
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OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Petzl
2020-09-27 04:35:37 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
I like the Maori approach in dealing with the likes of your types!

<https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=1xJzCgAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=#v=onepage&q&f=false>
In 1835 some displaced Ngati Mutunga and Ngati Tama, from the Taranaki
region, but living in Wellington, invaded the Chathams. On 19 November
1835, the brig Lord Rodney, a hijacked European ship, arrived carrying
500 Maori (men, women and children) with guns, clubs and axes, and
loaded with 78 tonnes of potatoes for planting, followed by another
load, by the same ship, of 400 more Maori on 5 December 1835. Before
the second shipment of people arrived, the invaders killed a
12-year-old girl and hung her flesh on posts. They proceeded to
enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others. With the arrival
of the second group "parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and
tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal
territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting.
If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the
inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living
there were now vassals."

Maori conqueror explained, "We took possession... in accordance with
our customs and we caught all the people. Not one escaped....."

The invaders ritually killed some 10% of the population, a ritual that
included staking out women and children on the beach and leaving them
to die in great pain over several days.

During the following enslavement the Maori invaders forbade the
speaking of the Moriori language. They forced Moriori to desecrate
their sacred sites by urinating and defecating on them. Moriori were
forbidden to marry Moriori or Maori, or to have children with each
other. This was different from the customary form of slavery practiced
on mainland New Zealand.
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Dechucka
2020-09-27 05:06:38 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
I like the Maori approach in dealing with the likes of your types!
You like a bit of genocide don't you

snip
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2020-09-27 05:17:52 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
I like the Maori approach in dealing with the likes of your types!
You like a bit of genocide don't you
snip
Coming from a Islamofacist!
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Dechucker
YOU ARE JUST A LYING SPINING DECEITFUL MAGGOT WOG!
You never knew or know either Latham or me
What papers do you read obiously no Australian ones
Probably only Arab or Turk one
Dechucka
2020-09-27 05:42:25 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
I like the Maori approach in dealing with the likes of your types!
You like a bit of genocide don't you
snip
Coming from a Islamofacist!
nice sig
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2020-09-27 19:11:01 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The
food, the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Why dont you actually read a post before replying to what your bias
tells you was written
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2020-09-27 19:45:57 UTC
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Post by George
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:49:17 +1000
Post by Dechucka
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The
food, the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Why dont you actually read a post before replying to what your bias
tells you was written
You are posting to nz.general, can.politics, soc.culture.canada,
nz.politics, aus.politics

Some reading those groups would have no knowledge of the Maori Party
in New Zealand. "Byker" added the other newsgroups on 25 September.
Perhaps not surprisingly, New Zealand posters may well consider that
the thread has drifted "off topic" since then.

From radio this morning there may be a small chance that the Maori
Party may win one seat - Co-Leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer in the Te
Tai Hauauru electorate. Current MP is Adrian Rurawhe who took the seat
when Tariana Turia retired. Labour had over 50% of the party vote in
the seat, but the margin in 2017 for Rurawhe was 1,039 votees; 9791 vs
Maori Party candidate Howie Tamati on 8752. She does not come across
to me as part of the "lunatic fringe" :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Ngarewa-Packer
Dechucka
2020-09-27 20:20:23 UTC
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Post by George
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:49:17 +1000
Post by Dechucka
OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The
food, the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
If you believe all Moslems are responsible then all Americans are
responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Why dont you actually read a post before replying to what your bias
tells you was written
my point is valid
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2020-09-27 02:50:52 UTC
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911............
In Australia???

YAWN!
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2020-09-27 03:11:24 UTC
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911............
In Australia???
:-)) Doing so in an emergency would improve the gene pool.
George
2020-09-27 19:12:58 UTC
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George declared
Post by George
911............
In Australia???
YAWN!
Okay.
Then wasn't there a restaurant in Aussie that got taken over by a mad
muslim
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2020-09-28 03:39:23 UTC
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911............
In Australia???
YAWN!
Okay.
Then wasn't there a restaurant in Aussie that got taken over by a mad
muslim
These two incidences weren't at all comparable!

I refuse to succumb to paranoia and live in fear, when it comes to these
kinds of random acts of wanton violence.
Specially because OZ is NOT the USA.

Anyhow.
That particular fanatic was certainly NO more murderous than many of
those alt-right wannabe/actual terrorists still running around unmolested
by the law, both in OZ and it seems in New Zealand!

So again I ask!
Your point in bringing up 9/11 is exactly what!
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2020-09-28 03:47:23 UTC
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So again I ask!
Your point in bringing up 9/11 is exactly what!
Watching the outpouring at the US 11/9 memorial I found it strange that
2 977 dead in this attack pulls America together but 209 453 deaths due
to SARS-2 divides it
Petzl
2020-09-28 04:35:54 UTC
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So again I ask!
Your point in bringing up 9/11 is exactly what!
Watching the outpouring at the US 11/9 memorial I found it strange that
2 977 dead in this attack pulls America together but 209 453 deaths due
to SARS-2 divides it
So you don't know that US 11/9 was deliberate murder by Moslems!

The other a act of nature.
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Dechucker
YOU ARE JUST A LYING SPINING DECEITFUL MAGGOT WOG!
You never knew or know either Latham or me
What papers do you read obiously no Australian ones
Probably only Arab or Turk one
Dechucka
2020-09-28 05:00:53 UTC
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So again I ask!
Your point in bringing up 9/11 is exactly what!
Watching the outpouring at the US 11/9 memorial I found it strange that
2 977 dead in this attack pulls America together but 209 453 deaths due
to SARS-2 divides it
So you don't know that US 11/9 was deliberate murder by Moslems!
It was a terrorist attack by people who were Moslem.
Post by Petzl
The other a act of nature.
Strange isn't it that something that has caused, so far, 742 times more
deaths isn't seen as a national tragedy just as the 11/9 so rightly is.
Just musing
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2020-09-28 07:25:35 UTC
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So again I ask!
Your point in bringing up 9/11 is exactly what!
Watching the outpouring at the US 11/9 memorial I found it strange that
2 977 dead in this attack pulls America together but 209 453 deaths due
to SARS-2 divides it
So you don't know that US 11/9 was deliberate murder by Moslems!
The other a act of nature.
Trump, GOP, QAnon, Proud Boys, violent and brutal police, myriads of
"Karens" ain't act of nature, Petz dear!
They are acts of ultimate exercise in human stupidity, ineptitude, wilful
ignorance and many things a lot worse. Ands so their effec

This mob is the American Taliban!
And its effect on the society in the US is a lot more devastating then
9/11 ever was. The totally avoidable huge COVID death toll attests to
that sad fact.

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Dechucker
YOU ARE JUST A LYING SPINING DECEITFUL MAGGOT WOG!
YAWN!

No one takes seriously that stupid accusation in this newsgroup,
certainly not its regular readers, specially NOT because it comes from
our inebriated deranged village idiot.
You never knew or know either Latham or me
Both you, Petz dear, and Latham are on searchable public record for all
the crap generated.
Of course, one should consider oneself extremely lucky never to have had
the misfortune to encounter privately such lowlife creep as you two.
What papers do you read obiously no Australian ones
Dechucka regularly cites articles published in Australian media.
However whenever he does that you dismiss it as fake news.
Probably only Arab or Turk one
Somehow I don't think Dechucka has the language skills to do so (I
apologise if that is false assumption). But even if he did, they couldn't
be worse as a news source that those you regularly quote (North Korea,
Faux News, Daily Terror, QAnon crap, etc)
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2020-09-28 08:50:29 UTC
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So again I ask!
Your point in bringing up 9/11 is exactly what!
Watching the outpouring at the US 11/9 memorial I found it strange that
2 977 dead in this attack pulls America together but 209 453 deaths due
to SARS-2 divides it
Yep.
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2020-10-02 12:58:00 UTC
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OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
Yes, the Porsche 911 is a nice piece of technology .... but I don't
think it's really a big bit of Australia's traditions!!

The Holden Torana, though ....!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Torana
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2020-10-02 14:39:37 UTC
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OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
Wait until the asslifters blow up the Sydney Opera House...
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2020-10-02 22:56:12 UTC
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OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
Wait until the asslifters blow up the Sydney Opera House...
IMMIGRATION authorities warned the Fraser government in 1976
Moslems are unskilled, illiterate and have questionable character and
standards of personal hygiene.
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"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."
Byker
2020-10-03 16:44:36 UTC
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Wait until the asslifters blow up the Sydney Opera House...
IMMIGRATION authorities warned the Fraser government in 1976
Moslems are unskilled, illiterate and have questionable character and
standards of personal hygiene.
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Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about
you and your heritage, there's a good chance they will kill you."
"But 'we' are not allowed to kill them first?"
https://twitter.com/JohnSki53703028/status/1197685901419110401
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2020-10-03 20:24:58 UTC
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Wait until the asslifters blow up the Sydney Opera House...
IMMIGRATION authorities warned the Fraser government in 1976
Moslems are unskilled, illiterate and have questionable character and
standards of personal hygiene.
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"When you let people into your country that hate everything about
you and your heritage, there's a good chance they will kill you."
"But 'we' are not allowed to kill them first?"
https://twitter.com/JohnSki53703028/status/1197685901419110401
That was from Clint Eastwood Tweet that has been deleted
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With Islamic so called "refugees"
started by Mohammad as the 1st Moslem Refugee in AD622
ended up slaughtering/enslving those that took him in
Invasion by stealth!
You’re not being tolerant.
You’re not being inclusive.
You’re not being open-minded
You’re being conquered.
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2020-10-03 01:25:20 UTC
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OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
Yes, the Porsche 911 is a nice piece of technology
Yuck! A posh volkswagon much loved by males (for some obscure but
incomprehensible reason)

.... but I don't
Post by Daniel65
think it's really a big bit of Australia's traditions!!
The Holden Torana, though ....!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Torana
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2020-10-03 13:28:07 UTC
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The Holden Torana, though ....!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Torana
I can remember a photo, in the Melbourne SUN, of the rear end
'Duck-tail' of a Holden Torana which had a big "5000" written across it.

The writing under the photo said that the decal read "Here I am Cops,
try to catch me!!" (or similar). I looked at the photo several times but
no way could I see those words!!

It was some time later that I realised what was going on!! ;-P
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2020-10-03 13:20:33 UTC
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OK so the basis of your argument is bigotry. You should get out and
see the amazing Moslem community in suburbs around Sydney. The food,
the traditions are a great addition to Australia.
911............
Perhaps you meant "Pizza 911" in High St, Wodonga!!
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2020-09-27 02:11:04 UTC
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Petz
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Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
We certainly are multicultural just go down to China town at
Chinese New Year
Good fun. but don't make Australian multicultural
So you have no fucking clue what the meaning of the word C U L T U R E
entails.
Try: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture>
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Post by Petzl
Australia has a Christian culture Anglican to be exact.
Certainly the white history of Australia is based on a judeo-christian
background but things are changing and religion in general means bugger
all to the average person.
Major Majority of Australians that choose to state at Census (Voluntary
question) time they are Christian
Ahem! NO!

"The Christian proportion of the population has fallen to just over 50%,
down from 88% 50 years ago. More significantly, the British Protestant
percentage has declined to about 20%, making it smaller than Catholics.
This marks a major shift in Australian culture, which – until about 1990
– was resolutely British Protestant, with Anglicans, Presbyterians and
Methodists dominant.

Not only has the proportion of Christians declined, it has become much
less British Protestant. Australia’s religious life has changed beyond
recognition from the 1950s and 1960s, when British Protestants comprised
two-thirds of the population."
< https://tinyurl.com/y3aw4sxr >

Ego you wishful delusions won't make your idiotic assertion true at all.

/snip some crap/
Post by Dechucka
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans? Try not to snip this time without
acknowledgement.
Obviously NOT!
Facts are White Christian Anglo Saxons are behind the building every
great successful nation.
I doubt that Russians, the French, the Germans, the Spaniards, the
Italians, the Greeks, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Japanese and for that
matter any non-Anglophone people would agree to that Anglo racist crap
coming out of your inebriated racism diseased cavernous head.

/snip/
Post by Dechucka
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
We can all be very thankful for that.
Not with the invasion of Moslems
No I N V A S I O N !
Your inebriated phantasms have nothing to do with reality.

Even the stats you yourself presented don't indicate any invasion.


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and your heritage, there's a good chance they will kill you."
Good reason for not letting in any white supremacists/neo-Nazis/racist
scumbags/religious fanatics from wherever they come from.
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- LNP propaganda sock clones of B.J. Foster

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2020-09-27 01:27:21 UTC
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Millions of non-whites are being flooded into every white majority country
and assimilated with ‘Multicultural’ programs.
With predictable results: https://tinyurl.com/y3nhelbf

"Integration" only happens when it's FORCED. Remember that...
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2020-09-27 01:38:20 UTC
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Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
B U L L S H I T !

Every person who lives in OZ are the members of the *human* race!
Ergo we are M O N O R A C I A L !

However we have people living here from a multitude of ethnic/cultural
backgrounds.
Ergo we are M U L T I C U L T U R A L!
Post by Petzl
Australia has a Christian culture Anglican to be exact.
Australia is NOT a theocracy!
Australia is secular!
Ergo you talk religious loon B U L L S H I T !
Post by Petzl
White people used to make up 30% of the world's population but now make
up just 8% and falling.
So what is the skin colour of people from Northern/North-Eastern parts of
Asia, what is the skin colour of Jewish people, etc...etc..etc?
Why does skin pigment content matter at all?

Which supremacist idiot organisation created such obviously crazy stat
data.
Post by Petzl
Millions of non-whites are being flooded into
every white majority country and assimilated with Multicultural
programs.
So what!
Given the fact that Western imperialism and US neocon ideology has
devastated/destroyed a huge number of countries world wide, these poor
people have to look for safe places to live in.
Or do you think Petz dear (a rhetorical proposition only), that there is
no downside to fucking up certain countries to such extreme that the
population there must flee in order to survive at all?

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the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future
generations,
Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a
Christian Commonwealth
B U L L S H I T !

Pure Xtian fundy wanker crap fantasies as per usual!
Australia is a S E C U L A R country.
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- idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham
- LNP propaganda sock clones of B.J. Foster

- LJH /Little Johnny Howard family of sock and meat puppets/
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- septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A

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How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
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Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!

One *RACE* , many cultures!!
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2020-10-02 23:00:44 UTC
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How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
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Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.

ASPECTS & ASSUMPTIONS OF
WHITE CULTURE IN AUSTRALIA
TALKING ABOUT RACE
White dominant culture, or whiteness, refers to the ways white people
and their traditions,acticurles and ways of life have been normalized
overtime and are now considered standard pradices in Australia. And
since White people still hold most of the institutional power in
Australia,we have all internalised some aspects of white culture —
including people of colour.

Rugged Individualism
• The individual is the primary unit • Self-reliance
• Independence & autonomy highly valued + rewarded
• Individuals assumed to be in control of their environment, "You get
what you deserve"

Family Structure
• The nuclear family, father, mother, 2.3 children is the ideal social
unit
• Husband is breadwinner and head of household
• Wife is homemaker and subordinate to the husband
• Children should have own rooms, be independent

Emphasis on Scientific Method
• Objective, rational linear thinking
• Cause and effect relationshipsa
• Quantitative emphasis

History
• Based on Northern European immigrants'experience in the United
States
• Heavy focus on the British Empire
• The primacy of Western (Greek, Roman) and Judeo-Christian tradition

Protestant Work Ethic
• Hard work is the key to success
• Work before play
• "If you didn't meet your goals, you didn't work hard enough"

Religion
• Christianity is the norm
• Anything other than ludeo—Christian tradition is foreign
• No tolerance for deviation from single god oncept

Status, Power & Authority
• Wealth = worth
• Your job is who you are
• Respect authority
• Heavy value on ownership of goods, space, property

Future Orientation
• Plan for future
• Delayed gratification
• Progress is always best
• "Tomorrow will be better"
Time
• Follow rigid time schedules
• Time viewed as a commodity

Aesthetics
• Based on European culture • Steak and potatoes; "bland is best"
• Woman's beauty based on blonde, thin —"Barbie"
• Man's attractiveness based on economic status, power, intellect

Holidays
• Based on Christian religions
• Based on white history & male leaders

Justice
• Based on English common law
• Protect property & entitlement
• Intent counts

Competition
• Be #1
• Win at all costs
• Winner/loser dichotomy
• Action Orientation
• Master and control nature
• Must always "do something" about a situation
• Aggressiveness and Extroversion
• Decision-Making
• Majority rules

Communication
• "The King's English" rules
• Written tradition
• Avoid conflict, intimacy
• Don't show emotion
• Don't discuss personal life
• Be polite
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there's a good chance they will kill you."
Daniel65
2020-10-04 12:02:37 UTC
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How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
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Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
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2020-10-04 12:12:58 UTC
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How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
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How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.

Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Preamble
The "signature"
"La Reyne le veult" ("The Queen wills it") or "Le Roy le veult" ("The
King wills it") is a Norman French phrase used in the Parliament of
the United Kingdom to signify that a public bill (including a private
member's bill) has received royal assent from the monarch of the
United Kingdom. It is a legacy of the time prior to 1488 when
Parliamentary and judicial business was conducted in French, the
language of the educated classes after the Norman Conquest of 1066. It
is one of a small number of Norman French phrases that continue to be
used in the course of Parliamentary procedure.

Like it or lump it the following is the reality
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input!

The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.

To be a religion in Australia it has to be In the name of the most
holy and undivided Trinity. In other words a denomination of
Christianity.

The Constitution of Australia Bill was passed by the Imperial
(British) Parliament on 5 July 1900.
Queen Victoria assented four days later, and in September proclaimed
hat the Commonwealth of Australia would come into existence on the
first day of the twentieth century (Tuesday 1 January 1901).
On the occasion, one of the Constitution’s most distinguished
co-authors, Sir John Downer, declared:
The Commonwealth of Australia will be from its first stage,
a Christian Commonwealth’.
During the 1897 Convention delegates have been inundated with
petitions in which the recognition of God in the Constitution was
demanded. The petitions, organized nationally asked for the
recognition of God as the ‘supreme ruler of the universe’; for the
declaration of national prayers and national days of thanksgiving and
‘humiliation’. But, the essence of their petition was that the
Constitution should include a statement of spiritual
—specifically Christian—
identity for the new nation.

The insertion of an acknowledgment of God into the Australian
Constitution occurred in response to overwhelming public support,
which came, among other things, from countless petitions received from
the citizens of every single colony in Australia. Overall, these
petitions reflected the general sentiments of the people for ‘some
outward recognition’ of the Divine Providence, so that the work of the
Australian Framers should ‘fix in our Constitution the elements of
reverence and strength, by expressing our share of the universal sense
that a Divine idea animates all our higher objects, and that the
guiding hand of Providence leads our wanderings towards the dawn

Islam is not a denomination of Christianity under our constitution is
not a religion!

Our Constitution still recognises the monarch of the United Kingdom as
our head of state.

In the feudal system from which our monarchic system arose, the
monarch was God's representative on earth and ruled by "Divine Right".
In other words, the Queen is Queen because God says she is Queen. You
and I cannot be a monarch because God has not chosen us.

So, for the monarchy to enjoy any legitimacy at all, God must exist.
If God does not exist, you and I have as much claim to the throne as
Elizabeth Battenberg ever did and the whole neo-feudal system of rank
and privilege comes crashing down.

It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under a legally defined God - the Christian God, whose
compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening
words of our Constitution, "Whereas the people of...", comes the
clause: "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html

According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input. Clearly, those who
now have most influence in this country are people with no love for
Jesus Christ, or the Holy Bible.
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
Dechucka
2020-10-04 19:50:07 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
You should try it firstly by reading our constitution
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.

From the ACT

9. Constitution
Post by Petzl
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Preamble
The "signature"
"La Reyne le veult" ("The Queen wills it") or "Le Roy le veult" ("The
King wills it") is a Norman French phrase used in the Parliament of
the United Kingdom to signify that a public bill (including a private
member's bill) has received royal assent from the monarch of the
United Kingdom. It is a legacy of the time prior to 1488 when
Parliamentary and judicial business was conducted in French, the
language of the educated classes after the Norman Conquest of 1066. It
is one of a small number of Norman French phrases that continue to be
used in the course of Parliamentary procedure.
Like it or lump it the following is the reality
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input!
The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
To be a religion in Australia it has to be In the name of the most
holy and undivided Trinity. In other words a denomination of
Christianity.
The Constitution of Australia Bill was passed by the Imperial
(British) Parliament on 5 July 1900.
Queen Victoria assented four days later, and in September proclaimed
hat the Commonwealth of Australia would come into existence on the
first day of the twentieth century (Tuesday 1 January 1901).
On the occasion, one of the Constitution’s most distinguished
The Commonwealth of Australia will be from its first stage,
a Christian Commonwealth’.
During the 1897 Convention delegates have been inundated with
petitions in which the recognition of God in the Constitution was
demanded. The petitions, organized nationally asked for the
recognition of God as the ‘supreme ruler of the universe’; for the
declaration of national prayers and national days of thanksgiving and
‘humiliation’. But, the essence of their petition was that the
Constitution should include a statement of spiritual
—specifically Christian—
identity for the new nation.
The insertion of an acknowledgment of God into the Australian
Constitution occurred in response to overwhelming public support,
which came, among other things, from countless petitions received from
the citizens of every single colony in Australia. Overall, these
petitions reflected the general sentiments of the people for ‘some
outward recognition’ of the Divine Providence, so that the work of the
Australian Framers should ‘fix in our Constitution the elements of
reverence and strength, by expressing our share of the universal sense
that a Divine idea animates all our higher objects, and that the
guiding hand of Providence leads our wanderings towards the dawn
Islam is not a denomination of Christianity under our constitution is
not a religion!
Our Constitution still recognises the monarch of the United Kingdom as
our head of state.
In the feudal system from which our monarchic system arose, the
monarch was God's representative on earth and ruled by "Divine Right".
In other words, the Queen is Queen because God says she is Queen. You
and I cannot be a monarch because God has not chosen us.
So, for the monarchy to enjoy any legitimacy at all, God must exist.
If God does not exist, you and I have as much claim to the throne as
Elizabeth Battenberg ever did and the whole neo-feudal system of rank
and privilege comes crashing down.
It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under a legally defined God - the Christian God, whose
compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening
words of our Constitution, "Whereas the people of...", comes the
clause: "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input. Clearly, those who
now have most influence in this country are people with no love for
Jesus Christ, or the Holy Bible.
Petzl
2020-10-04 20:05:15 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
You should try it firstly by reading our constitution
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.
From the ACT
9. Constitution
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
snip
--
Petzl
Our parliaments need to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law
"Dieu et mon droit" God is my legal right
Dechucka
2020-10-04 20:16:39 UTC
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Post by Daniel65
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
You should try it firstly by reading our constitution
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.
From the ACT
9. Constitution
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Petzl
2020-10-04 21:03:31 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 23:02:37 +1100, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
You should try it firstly by reading our constitution
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.
From the ACT
9. Constitution
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
--
Petzl
Dechucker
YOU ARE JUST A LYING SPINING DECEITFUL MAGGOT WOG!
You never knew or know either Latham or me
What papers do you read obiously no Australian ones
Probably only Arab or Turk one
Dechucka
2020-10-04 21:06:49 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.
From the ACT
9. Constitution
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
Which ones would these be?
Petzl
2020-10-04 21:31:58 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.
From the ACT
9. Constitution
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
Which ones would these be?
Already told you. Your lying twisting reply was
"He's an academic lawyer. He's not a constitutional lawyer."
"She doesn't, either."
Dr Zimmermann, Dr Irving
Both are professors, Doctors of Law, teaching Australian
Constructional LAW.

You are a failed doctor.
Failed mushroom farmer, the mushrooms couldn't take your bullshit
either.
--
Petzl
Dechucker
YOU ARE JUST A LYING SPINING DECEITFUL MAGGOT WOG!
You never knew or know either Latham or me
What papers do you read obiously no Australian ones
Probably only Arab or Turk one
Dechucka
2020-10-04 21:43:25 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.
From the ACT
9. Constitution
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
Which ones would these be?
Already told you. Your lying twisting reply was
"He's an academic lawyer. He's not a constitutional lawyer."
"She doesn't, either."
?
Post by Petzl
Dr Zimmermann,
Is that Augusto Zimmerman?
Post by Petzl
Dr Irving
Is that Helen Irving?
Post by Petzl
Both are professors, Doctors of Law, teaching Australian
Constructional LAW.
So cite what they say about Australia not being a sectarian country
Post by Petzl
You are a failed doctor.
Never tried to get a Doctorate, Masters will do me. I can have one by
next week if you feel it is important for me to be one.
Post by Petzl
Failed mushroom farmer,
Wrong again, while I don't grow mushrooms commercially I have a good
crop of different varieties. I'm good a growing them because I'm a funguy
Post by Petzl
the mushrooms couldn't take your bullshit
either.
Daniel65
2020-10-06 13:22:53 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
What's This?? You couldn't destroy the argument so now you go the man,
instead, Petzl??
--
Daniel
Petzl
2020-10-06 20:58:39 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
What's This?? You couldn't destroy the argument so now you go the man,
instead, Petzl??
So you believe the qualities, values and character of a Islamic,
multiculturalist, over that of a number of Constitutional Lawyers, top
of their field.
--
Petzl
A perfect picture of all that's wrong with lefties -
I'm miserable & someone else is to blame.

If the Left so strongly supports 'diversity'
why do they spend so much time trying to close down
opinions different to their own?

'Diversity' is the new Orwellian doublespeak,
a Leftist propaganda tool to disguise the fact
they are trying to create a more uniform,
homogenous society, in their own image.

Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within
Dechucka
2020-10-06 21:15:49 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
What's This?? You couldn't destroy the argument so now you go the man,
instead, Petzl??
So you believe the qualities, values and character of a Islamic,
multiculturalist, over that of a number of Constitutional Lawyers, top
of their field.
Would the Constitutional lawyers be Dr Zimmermann and Dr Irving? Have
you actually read what they have said about religion in Australia esp
freedom of religion. I cannot find where they support your bizarre
position but you obviously know where they do and can cite.
Petzl
2020-10-06 21:29:50 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 00:22:53 +1100, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
Coming from a failed doctor who now knows more than constitutional
lawyers
What's This?? You couldn't destroy the argument so now you go the man,
instead, Petzl??
So you believe the qualities, values and character of a Islamic,
multiculturalist, over that of a number of Constitutional Lawyers, top
of their field.
Would the Constitutional lawyers be Dr Zimmermann and Dr Irving? Have
you actually read what they have said about religion in Australia esp
freedom of religion. I cannot find where they support your bizarre
position but you obviously know where they do and can cite.
Allready have produced cites and you know I have.
You always go in denial mode, demanding cites which you then snip or
claim you won't read becuse they are not from someone like "Ayman
Mohammed Rabie al-Zawahiri"
--
Petzl
For over 1,400 years or the beginning of Islam AD 622 year one of
Islamic calendar and Islamic world invasion,

Mohammad was Islams first "refugee", killing/enslaving
everyone in the Jewish city he fled too and welcomed him!

The major majority of "refugees" in the world are still Islamic,
Fran
2020-10-05 00:31:49 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 23:02:37 +1100, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:06:03 +1000, Dechucka
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
You should try it firstly by reading our constitution
Post by Petzl
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
In British LAW but not not the Constitution.
 From the ACT
9. Constitution
As you have been told before what I have stated has been confirmed as
fact by a number of Australia's top constitutional lawyers
It certainly has been our Constitution starts AFTER Sect 9 of the act.
You never seem to be able to name the Constitutional lawyers who claim
we aren't a sectarian country
He'd be telling lies if he did mention their names as no 'top
constitutional lawyer' would make any such stupid statement. Our
Cosntitution does NOT include the preamble where God is mentioned.
Daniel65
2020-10-06 13:15:55 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 23:02:37 +1100, Daniel65
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Post by Petzl
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
So, hang on, a while back (about ten line up), you, Petzl, suggested
"The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture"
and now you are suggesting "Australia is Christian", not a
"Commonwealth" nor a "culture"!!
Post by Petzl
When did these words start being called a preamble?
I seem to recall discussion, in the last twenty years or so, about
including a Pre-amble to the Constitution *AND* the sixty thousand year
history of Aboriginals in Australia should be included in that Pre-amble!
Post by Petzl
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
There is NO Pre-amble!! Oh!! Hang on! You know that 'cause you mention
it in the next line!!
Post by Petzl
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Preamble
The "signature"
"La Reyne le veult" ("The Queen wills it") or "Le Roy le veult" ("The
King wills it") is a Norman French phrase used in the Parliament of
the United Kingdom
So *NOT* Australia, then!
Post by Petzl
to signify that a public bill (including a private
member's bill) has received royal assent from the monarch of the
United Kingdom. It is a legacy of the time prior to 1488 when
Parliamentary and judicial business was conducted in French, the
language of the educated classes after the Norman Conquest of 1066. It
is one of a small number of Norman French phrases that continue to be
used in the course of Parliamentary procedure.
Like it or lump it the following is the reality
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input!
What clause of *THE AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION* states this??
Post by Petzl
The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
What clause of *THE AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION* states this??
--
Daniel
Petzl
2020-10-06 21:13:38 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 23:02:37 +1100, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
So, hang on, a while back (about ten line up), you, Petzl, suggested
"The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture"
and now you are suggesting "Australia is Christian", not a
"Commonwealth" nor a "culture"!!
Post by Petzl
When did these words start being called a preamble?
I seem to recall discussion, in the last twenty years or so, about
including a Pre-amble to the Constitution *AND* the sixty thousand year
history of Aboriginals in Australia should be included in that Pre-amble!
Post by Petzl
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
There is NO Pre-amble!! Oh!! Hang on! You know that 'cause you mention
it in the next line!!
Post by Petzl
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Preamble
The "signature"
"La Reyne le veult" ("The Queen wills it") or "Le Roy le veult" ("The
King wills it") is a Norman French phrase used in the Parliament of
the United Kingdom
So *NOT* Australia, then!
Post by Petzl
to signify that a public bill (including a private
member's bill) has received royal assent from the monarch of the
United Kingdom. It is a legacy of the time prior to 1488 when
Parliamentary and judicial business was conducted in French, the
language of the educated classes after the Norman Conquest of 1066. It
is one of a small number of Norman French phrases that continue to be
used in the course of Parliamentary procedure.
Like it or lump it the following is the reality
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input!
What clause of *THE AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION* states this??
Post by Petzl
The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
What clause of *THE AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION* states this??
You are just yabbering, brain fart.
The so called "Preamble" is conveniently considered to be superfluous
and redundant yet it takes a referendum to change it.
WHICH HAS NEVER HAPPEN

The God in our Preamble calls on is legally defined as the God of the
New Testament

Only the States have the power to directly control
religions/faiths/cults as seen
in mechanisms such as the Catholic relief Act and the Federal 116
says the Feds do not have the power to control religions/faiths/cults.
i.e. it relinquishes those powers to the States.

It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under our legally defined God - the Christian God, whose
compound redemptive
Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening words of the Preamble
to our Constitution, "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
"...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."

According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes all non-Christians from political input

Only by believing in God we can criticize Government. Once you abolish
God, the Government becomes God

It would be massively cheaper to subsidize Australian families.
This would lead to larger Australian families raised with Christian
values

Child care would be better, more socially accepted, more effective and
MUCH lees expensive than paying for "Multiculturalism" !
Would also add the advantage of a Australian culture, but lefties
don't like decency.

Real Child care, or the ones used to fund Islamic State?
<https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-shut-down-nearly-200-fake-day-care-centres-across-nsw-after-uncovering-terror-and-bikie-links/news-story/b1be6c98477aae51c1a2c14f99ca314f>
https://is.gd/575aNo
Almost 200 NSW daycare centres — linked to funding for overseas
terrorism, bikie gangs and fraud — have been shut down.

The banned daycare centres — the majority of which are located in
southwest Sydney — include those linked to the Fairfield-based Red
Roses Family Day Care company, which was raided by police last month
and 18 people arrested as part of an alleged $4 million fraud on the
Commonwealth’s Child Care Subsidy Scheme.

The 188 family daycare centres shut down in NSW since 2016 have saved
the federal government an estimated $674 million annually in
fraudulent payments, often for children who do not attend and daycare
centres which do not exist.
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Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
Dechucka
2020-10-06 21:27:27 UTC
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On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 00:15:55 +1100, Daniel65
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Post by Petzl
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 23:02:37 +1100, Daniel65
Post by Daniel65
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
Maybe the few leftie loons that infest this group claim they don't
Everything written by me about Australia's Christian constitution is
written by history. History is not meant to be liked. but learnt from.
Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
So, hang on, a while back (about ten line up), you, Petzl, suggested
"The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture"
and now you are suggesting "Australia is Christian", not a
"Commonwealth" nor a "culture"!!
Post by Petzl
When did these words start being called a preamble?
I seem to recall discussion, in the last twenty years or so, about
including a Pre-amble to the Constitution *AND* the sixty thousand year
history of Aboriginals in Australia should be included in that Pre-amble!
Post by Petzl
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
There is NO Pre-amble!! Oh!! Hang on! You know that 'cause you mention
it in the next line!!
Post by Petzl
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Preamble
The "signature"
"La Reyne le veult" ("The Queen wills it") or "Le Roy le veult" ("The
King wills it") is a Norman French phrase used in the Parliament of
the United Kingdom
So *NOT* Australia, then!
Post by Petzl
to signify that a public bill (including a private
member's bill) has received royal assent from the monarch of the
United Kingdom. It is a legacy of the time prior to 1488 when
Parliamentary and judicial business was conducted in French, the
language of the educated classes after the Norman Conquest of 1066. It
is one of a small number of Norman French phrases that continue to be
used in the course of Parliamentary procedure.
Like it or lump it the following is the reality
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input!
What clause of *THE AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION* states this??
Post by Petzl
The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
What clause of *THE AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION* states this??
You are just yabbering, brain fart.
The so called "Preamble" is conveniently considered to be superfluous
and redundant yet it takes a referendum to change it.
Actually it doesn't it takes an Act of he British Parliament because as
you know sect 9 of the Act states

"9. Constitution
The Constitution of the Commonwealth shall be as follows:
The Constitution1
Post by Petzl
WHICH HAS NEVER HAPPEN
The God in our Preamble calls on is legally defined as the God of the
New Testament
Where is it legally defined? Is the God of the New Testament different
from the old one?
Post by Petzl
Only the States have the power to directly control
religions/faiths/cults as seen
in mechanisms such as the Catholic relief Act and the Federal 116
says the Feds do not have the power to control religions/faiths/cults.
i.e. it relinquishes those powers to the States.
So Australia doesn't have a State religion as only the States have power
to control religion, you are confused and contradicting yourself
Post by Petzl
It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under our legally defined God - the Christian God, whose
compound redemptive
How can that be as only States can control religion according to you?

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Fran
2020-10-05 00:28:58 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 22:52:15 +1000, Daniel65
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
How long will it take for white children to be made extinct for ever?
Would it make any difference if we were all green with purple polka
dots? We'd still be all humans
Post by Petzl
‘Multiculturalism’ is just a code word for White Genocide.
Multiculturalism has made Australia a vibrant and fantastic country.
snip
Australians are multiracial not multicultural!
Sorry!! I thought we were all part of the HUMAN *RACE* !!
One *RACE* , many cultures!!
You "thought" wrong.
The Commonwealth of Australia was born to be a Christian only culture.
You keep harping on about this, Petzl, but I don't think anybody
here-abouts believes you!!
No-one believes him because he's telling another of his lies. Or he's
just terminally stupid and refuses to understand or believe S.116 of our
Constitution which guarantees our secular standing:
"The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion,
or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free
exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a
qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth."
George
2020-09-25 20:06:27 UTC
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Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/m-ori-party-promises-to-rename-new-zealand-to-aotearoa-if-elected.html
The Māori Party says if it is elected they will rename New Zealand
to Aotearoa and all cities, towns and places will have their
European names replaced with the original Māori
Just like Injuns in Canada want everything renamed
so as not to "offend" the "First Nations"...
Too bad they didn't have maps or a written language that could be
used to mark place names.
Funny that...
So they appropriated the 'evil' white mans tools
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