On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 04:11:22 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 03:24:01 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 01:34:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes Post by Gordon
Well if the sampling is correct looks like NZ First is under the benches and
Labour might be able to drop the Greens and keep moving.
Interesting to see that even with the National electrol seat winning the
Pary vote is going to Labour. Read National party polices are not favoured.
So will Judith get rolled within 6 months?
Will the Labour Party be able to settle down and run the country, or just
spin like a drunk teenager?
I also see that the member for Ilam may no longer be Mr Brownlee. At last.
We forget Ardern's been campaigning since March! People have forgotten all the promises she failed with. Guess Keith is right: Kiwi's are stupid!
Speak for yourself, John . . . . but of course you are . . . .
Not speaking for myself Rich.
Really? Who were yu speaking for then?
Not for fucking imbeciles like you Rich!
Post by Rich80105 Post by John Bowes
I wasn't stupid enough to work at putting the failure that is Labour in power with the Greens for three years. Hell even with seven months of campaigning Ardern STILL couldn't get over 50% on the night. Rather surprised only 300,000 odd voted today......
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Move over Venezuela, Arderns going to make you look like a success story thanks to the fucking imbecilic Green party and it's imbecilic policy's!
Why do you think that, John Bowes? On tonights numbers L:abour can
govern alone, but I suspect they will work with other parties,
including at times with National.
Get your head out of your fucking arse imbecile! YOUR glorious leader has sad she wants the fucking Green party in government and needs it to have a clear majority!
While we only have election night numbers, it certainly seems that
Labour will have a clear majority without needing any other party,
John - 64 is more than half of 120; think about it.
The win is beng welcomed overseas of course:
Jacinda Ardern has said that she wants to work with other parties for
the benefit of all New Zealanders. abour and The Green Party do of
course share some policies already, but there are also a lot of
policies where National and Labour are substantially in agreement.
What many voters rejected was the almost rabid opposition to
everything that we saw from Bridges; Muller got early acclaim for
being more reasoned, but Judith Collins doubled down on the rabid
opposition to everything, accompanied by reminders of National's lies
and dirty tricks. She was of course just trying to retain the rump of
hard-core Nat supporters, but it will mean that she does not last as
leader of National.
Labour wants to govern for every New Zealander; I suspect they will
come to an arrangement with the Greens; Eugenie Sage was an excellent
Conservation Minister for example, and James Shaw did well with
Climate Change. See:
A new National leader may pick up a few clues from the success of ACT.
ACT's policies are extreme but he struck a chord with saying that they
would not just oppose but want to suggest policies for the benefit of
New Zealand. Some of those they will propose may not be welcomed -
loosening gun control for example - see this link from this morning:
- while that is not New Zealand, it is not the New Zealand we want to
Rumour says that Tuesday is the day for National's meeting; Brownlee
and Nick Smith will be encouraged to resign to bring in two from the
list; and Judith may well do the same; certainly there will be a
challenge forthe leadership. That could see Barbara Kuriger and Harete
Hipango coming in, and if others decided to go Jonathan Young and Tim
Macindoe in Parliament. Hardly inspiring, but there is no hope of
Brownlee or Smith being elected again; National would benefit from