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SFO investigation of alleged party donation issues by NZF
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Crash
2020-09-28 07:29:06 UTC
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This is all I can find:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121149902/sfo-will-complete-nz-first-foundation-investigation-before-election

It is now well after the original election date, but no SFO decision
has been published that I can recall.


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Euall B. Tode
2020-09-28 09:29:50 UTC
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Post by Crash
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121149902/sfo-will-complete-nz-first-foundation-investigation-before-election
It is now well after the original election date, but no SFO decision
has been published that I can recall.
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That investigation is still ongoing, which you could easily have found
simply by looking on the SFO website.

https://www.sfo.govt.nz/cases

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Labour Party Donations
An investigation in relation to donations made to the Labour Party is
ongoing.

National Party Donations
The defendants have pleaded not guilty to charges brought by the SFO.

NZ First Foundation & Others
An investigation in relation to the New Zealand First Foundation is
ongoing.

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I do hope cases with other political parties did not cause a "blind spot".
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Crash
2020-09-29 07:16:06 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 22:29:50 +1300, "Euall B. Tode"
Post by Euall B. Tode
Post by Crash
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121149902/sfo-will-complete-nz-first-foundation-investigation-before-election
It is now well after the original election date, but no SFO decision
has been published that I can recall.
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That investigation is still ongoing, which you could easily have found
simply by looking on the SFO website.
https://www.sfo.govt.nz/cases
Which sheds even less light on the investigation announcement I cited.

Events today have since overtaken events.
Post by Euall B. Tode
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Labour Party Donations
An investigation in relation to donations made to the Labour Party is
ongoing.
National Party Donations
The defendants have pleaded not guilty to charges brought by the SFO.
NZ First Foundation & Others
An investigation in relation to the New Zealand First Foundation is
ongoing.
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I do hope cases with other political parties did not cause a "blind spot".
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George
2020-09-28 19:12:33 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:29:06 +1300
Post by Crash
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121149902/sfo-will-complete-nz-first-foundation-investigation-before-election
It is now well after the original election date, but no SFO decision
has been published that I can recall.
Lying to protect their financiers.
This is one item that will disappear
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John Bowes
2020-09-29 05:40:07 UTC
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Post by George
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:29:06 +1300
Post by Crash
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121149902/sfo-will-complete-nz-first-foundation-investigation-before-election
It is now well after the original election date, but no SFO decision
has been published that I can recall.
Lying to protect their financiers.
This is one item that will disappear
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300118811/election-2020-winston-peters-threatens-to-take-serious-fraud-office-to-court-as-two-charged-over-nz-first-foundation

Winnie at his best! He claims his reputation has just been destroyed “You spend decades building a political reputation, and someone tries to smash it down in a matter of seconds.” Winston's only ever had a reputation as a shyster. What does the senile old fool want. To be known as something he's never been EVER! An honest politician :)
Crash
2020-09-29 07:43:57 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 22:40:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
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Post by George
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:29:06 +1300
Post by Crash
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121149902/sfo-will-complete-nz-first-foundation-investigation-before-election
It is now well after the original election date, but no SFO decision
has been published that I can recall.
Lying to protect their financiers.
This is one item that will disappear
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300118811/election-2020-winston-peters-threatens-to-take-serious-fraud-office-to-court-as-two-charged-over-nz-first-foundation
Winnie at his best! He claims his reputation has just been destroyed “You spend decades building a political reputation, and someone tries to smash it down in a matter of seconds.” Winston's only ever had a reputation as a shyster. What does the senile old fool want. To be known as something he's never been EVER! An honest politician :)
Yep. Winston has spent decades building a political reputation that
most of us do not accept. IIRC the best result that NZF ever achieved
was to hold down 1 electorate seat 1993-2005, and in the MMP era to
gain 13.35% of the party vote in 1996. So, Winston, your legacy since
leaving National in 1993 after being sacked by Bolger as a Cabinet
Minister in 1991 is that of a minor-party leader, rejected by at least
86.65% of party-voters.

When the Glenn donations came to light in 2008, NZF failed to get over
the 5%party vote threshold (4.07%). Peters himself held the Tauranga
seat until the 2005 election (defeated by Bob Clarkson and beaten
again in 2008 by Simon Bridges).

So Peters legacy of political achievements ended in 1991. Since then
he has been a bit-part player whose modest achievements have been
epitomised by the King-maker roles of NZF after the elections of 1996
and 2017, along with a minor role in 2005.

Deputy PM with 13.35% party vote support after the 1996 election, then
again in 2017 with 7.2%. Goodbye Winston, your role as a bit-part
player appears to be over. NZF may survive without you, but only if
Shane Jones can emulate your level of success in 2023 and beyond.


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George
2020-09-29 19:07:19 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 22:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300118811/election-2020-winston-peters-threatens-to-take-serious-fraud-office-to-court-as-two-charged-over-nz-first-foundation
Winnie at his best! He claims his reputation has just been destroyed
“You spend decades building a political reputation, and someone tries
to smash it down in a matter of seconds.” Winston's only ever had a
reputation as a shyster. What does the senile old fool want. To be
known as something he's never been EVER! An honest politician :)
Noticed it on Fake News One and went on to more important tasks like
feed the cat...
Some-one gave the orders and the mugs are going to pay for their loyalty
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John Bowes
2020-09-29 20:48:11 UTC
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Post by Crash
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 22:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300118811/election-2020-winston-peters-threatens-to-take-serious-fraud-office-to-court-as-two-charged-over-nz-first-foundation
Winnie at his best! He claims his reputation has just been destroyed
“You spend decades building a political reputation, and someone tries
to smash it down in a matter of seconds.” Winston's only ever had a
reputation as a shyster. What does the senile old fool want. To be
known as something he's never been EVER! An honest politician :)
Noticed it on Fake News One and went on to more important tasks like
feed the cat...
Some-one gave the orders and the mugs are going to pay for their loyalty
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Winston will try his usual tricks while his cohorts dive for cover as those charged blow the whistle and the whole sad tale of corruption unravels :)
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