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Crash
2021-04-05 00:56:53 UTC
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It is not that difficult to see that Labour indulged in politics over
this, rather than making a substantive effort to do the right thing
for the right reasons.


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James Christophers
2021-04-05 04:40:52 UTC
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It is not that difficult to see that Labour indulged in politics over
this, rather than making a substantive effort to do the right thing
for the right reasons.
Query: politics aside, at what point in the controversy/investigation does "sub judice" begin to apply?
JohnO
2021-04-05 05:16:20 UTC
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It is not that difficult to see that Labour indulged in politics over
this, rather than making a substantive effort to do the right thing
for the right reasons.
Query: politics aside, at what point in the controversy/investigation does "sub judice" begin to apply?
When it is "under a judge".

Forgotten your Latin classes already?
James Christophers
2021-04-05 21:52:24 UTC
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It is not that difficult to see that Labour indulged in politics over
this, rather than making a substantive effort to do the right thing
for the right reasons.
Any "fresh, new, young and hopeful" government may well take the Treasury benches fired up with irrational exuberance and good deeds (2017). But in the end, however humanitarian and resolute its intent, politics will - must -get the better of it. Politicians do as policy and circumstance dictate, pragmatism and opportunism being major factors in its decision-making; more cynically, perhaps, there's always that watchful eye on the next election.

Neither this government nor the previous one have earned much in the way of praise and approval since the disaster. On this group, Pike River has been providing rich pickings for those who must needs bicker and polarise over such tragedies, doubtless justifying this behaviour as "constructive" and "well-intentioned". So be it. OTOH, another regular Usenet contributor to the Pike River controversy has said a few weeks ago just how negatively he views such "sport". I think he's right.

So, to return to the emotional and psychological nub of it which involves only those the tragedy continues to bear down on: when the whole miserable process is finally wound up, presumably giving the families some kind of "closure", can anyone here suggest what might be the best "full and final" outcome they can hope for - (hope, not expect) - because, surely, this must always be what occupyies their minds most?
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