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Ginny Anderson. just another Labour liar!
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John Bowes
2021-03-19 08:57:51 UTC
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300256874/ginny-andersen-admits-knowledge-of-electorate-office-deal-in-2017

The lying little minx has finally admitted she lied about Labour ripping off the taxpayers with her office deal with the unions in Lower Hutt! When will this government face up to their own shortcomings and stop hiding the truth? The whole deal sounds like fraud!
Rich80105
2021-03-19 22:18:57 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300256874/ginny-andersen-admits-knowledge-of-electorate-office-deal-in-2017
The lying little minx has finally admitted she lied about Labour ripping off the taxpayers with her office deal with the unions in Lower Hutt! When will this government face up to their own shortcomings and stop hiding the truth? The whole deal sounds like fraud!
That is quite an accusation, John - perhaps you could enlighten
readers by actually identifying the lie you appear to be accusing
Anderson of making - the url you posted indicated that all
arrangements have been exactly as previously stated and meett he
requirements of Parliamentary Services.
John Bowes
2021-03-19 23:52:53 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300256874/ginny-andersen-admits-knowledge-of-electorate-office-deal-in-2017
The lying little minx has finally admitted she lied about Labour ripping off the taxpayers with her office deal with the unions in Lower Hutt! When will this government face up to their own shortcomings and stop hiding the truth? The whole deal sounds like fraud!
That is quite an accusation, John - perhaps you could enlighten
readers by actually identifying the lie you appear to be accusing
Anderson of making - the url you posted indicated that all
arrangements have been exactly as previously stated and meett he
requirements of Parliamentary Services.
Read the fucking article you moron! You won't/can't so here it is:
Fact 1: In 2017 Anderson claimed she knew nothing about the renting arrangement for her office in Petone.
Fact 2: In 2021 Anderson admits she knew about the rort on her Petone offices!
Fact 3: You Rich are just another comprehensionless liar denying all Labours failures and lies!
Fact 4: You'll continue to deny the obvious truth that your glorious leader is way out of her depth and incapable of achieving anything except virtue signalling bullshit!
Rich80105
2021-03-20 03:52:14 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:52:53 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300256874/ginny-andersen-admits-knowledge-of-electorate-office-deal-in-2017
The lying little minx has finally admitted she lied about Labour ripping off the taxpayers with her office deal with the unions in Lower Hutt! When will this government face up to their own shortcomings and stop hiding the truth? The whole deal sounds like fraud!
That is quite an accusation, John - perhaps you could enlighten
readers by actually identifying the lie you appear to be accusing
Anderson of making - the url you posted indicated that all
arrangements have been exactly as previously stated and meett he
requirements of Parliamentary Services.
Fact 1: In 2017 Anderson claimed she knew nothing about the renting arrangement for her office in Petone.
No she knew there was an arrangement, but was unaware of the details.
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Fact 2: In 2021 Anderson admits she knew about the rort on her Petone offices!
No, there has been no rort, but Anderson does now know the details
Post by John Bowes
Fact 3: You Rich are just another comprehensionless liar denying all Labours failures and lies!
Thre is nothing to indicate that even you believe that statement, but
it any event it has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.
Post by John Bowes
Fact 4: You'll continue to deny the obvious truth that your glorious leader is way out of her depth and incapable of achieving anything except virtue signalling bullshit!
More irrelevancies.

From the article, "The deal worked through a subletting arrangement
whereby the local Labour Party rented office space from the building’s
owner, the New Zealand Professional Firefighters Union, for $1500 a
year. It then sublet that office to Andersen for her MP’s duties, for
$6000."

So the Labour Party has an historic lease which requires them to pay
$1500 per year. It is probably a longterm lease, butthe sub-lease to
Anderson will only be short term. Rents have risen sharply over the
last few years; Parliamentary Services are happy with the current
rental of $6000. Anderson is required to pay that to the Labour party
as rent - all quite reasonable, and from the article: "Parliamentary
Services confirmed it was within the rules."

For reasons that are unclear, apparently the arrangement has now
changed, and the State Services Commission now pay the amount they
consider fair rental directly to the Labour Party as the main
leaseholder.

What is most unclear is why the Electoral Commission has now requried
a payment under a lease agreement to be declared by the Labour Party
as a donation - the building was sold for a price that took into
account the lease commitment at that time.

There are almost certainly other MP offices in buildings owned by
their political party - the party is entitled to charge reasonable
rent; which should be treated as rental income. Parliamentary Services
will refuse to pay more than they (Parliamentary Services) consider
reaonable. Why should any of that money be treated as a donation?
John Bowes
2021-03-20 04:26:13 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:52:53 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300256874/ginny-andersen-admits-knowledge-of-electorate-office-deal-in-2017
The lying little minx has finally admitted she lied about Labour ripping off the taxpayers with her office deal with the unions in Lower Hutt! When will this government face up to their own shortcomings and stop hiding the truth? The whole deal sounds like fraud!
That is quite an accusation, John - perhaps you could enlighten
readers by actually identifying the lie you appear to be accusing
Anderson of making - the url you posted indicated that all
arrangements have been exactly as previously stated and meett he
requirements of Parliamentary Services.
Fact 1: In 2017 Anderson claimed she knew nothing about the renting arrangement for her office in Petone.
No she knew there was an arrangement, but was unaware of the details.
Bullshit! "Labour’s Hutt South MP Ginny Andersen has admitted that in 2017 she knew about a secretive rent deal that saw $4500 in taxpayer cash funnelled into the local Labour Party each year."
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Fact 2: In 2021 Anderson admits she knew about the rort on her Petone offices!
No, there has been no rort, but Anderson does now know the details
BULLSHIT!" She’d previously said she only understood the deal after she “looked at it” ahead of the 2020 election, when she axed the arrangement, which was set up by the previous MP, now speaker of the House Trevor Mallard.
Post by Rich80105
Post by John Bowes
Fact 3: You Rich are just another comprehensionless liar denying all Labours failures and lies!
Thre is nothing to indicate that even you believe that statement, but
it any event it has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.
Yet another comprehension fail from the ng chief liar!
Post by Rich80105
Post by John Bowes
Fact 4: You'll continue to deny the obvious truth that your glorious leader is way out of her depth and incapable of achieving anything except virtue signalling bullshit!
More irrelevancies.
You just proved my claim Rich and you know it!
Post by Rich80105
From the article, "The deal worked through a subletting arrangement
whereby the local Labour Party rented office space from the building’s
owner, the New Zealand Professional Firefighters Union, for $1500 a
year. It then sublet that office to Andersen for her MP’s duties, for
$6000." "
Yes Rich and obvious rort and you know it!
<further bullshit in defence of the rort/fraud snipped>

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