Discussion:
New Zealands Race relations conciliator a racist
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ChristianKnight
2009-02-19 09:42:40 UTC
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The guy on one news tonight actually said he had written to South
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
New Zealand had tradtionally been racist and the Concilliator found no
reason why racisizim could flourish if it favoured darker coloured
people.
Another move from the New Zealand Government to set a White demise
across the world when their already a minority.
Christ's love
Geopelia
2009-02-19 12:54:17 UTC
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Post by ChristianKnight
The guy on one news tonight actually said he had written to South
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
New Zealand had tradtionally been racist and the Concilliator found no
reason why racisizim could flourish if it favoured darker coloured
people.
Another move from the New Zealand Government to set a White demise
across the world when their already a minority.
Christ's love
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
David
2009-02-19 16:32:33 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
The guy on one news tonight actually said he had written to South
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had  second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores  being staunch anti racists.
New Zealand had tradtionally been racist and the Concilliator found no
reason why racisizim could flourish if it favoured darker coloured
people.
Another move from the New Zealand Government to set a White demise
across the world when their already a minority.
Christ's love
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
Hmmm an ethical dilemma here... the Celtic countries draw from players
of any nationality.
The Welsh team is not composed entirely of Jones Davies Rowlands and
Prichards.

-D.
grumpyoldhori
2009-02-19 19:35:18 UTC
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Post by David
Hmmm an ethical dilemma here... the Celtic countries draw from players
of any nationality.
The Welsh team is not composed entirely of Jones Davies Rowlands and
Prichards.
Heh, and any hori who will play for them.
--
grumpy
ChristianKnight
2009-02-19 17:14:37 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
The guy on one news tonight actually said he had written to South
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
New Zealand had tradtionally been racist and the Concilliator found no
reason why racisizim could flourish if it favoured darker coloured
people.
Another move from the New Zealand Government to set a White demise
across the world when their already a minority.
Christ's love
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
Davids answer is fine with me.
Those nations have no 16th blood count demand.
I maybe a 16th more likely a 32th
Christ's love
David
2009-02-19 23:48:18 UTC
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Post by ChristianKnight
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
The guy on one news tonight actually said he had written to South
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had  second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores  being staunch anti racists.
New Zealand had tradtionally been racist and the Concilliator found no
reason why racisizim could flourish if it favoured darker coloured
people.
Another move from the New Zealand Government to set a White demise
across the world when their already a minority.
Christ's love
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
Davids answer is fine with me.
Those nations have no 16th blood count demand.
I maybe a 16th more likely a 32th
Christ's love
Someone with 1/128 or 1/256 still qualifies...but they have to be
Maori.
R***@hotmail.com
2009-02-19 19:35:10 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
The guy on one news tonight actually said he had written to South
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
New Zealand had tradtionally been racist and the Concilliator found no
reason why racisizim could flourish if it favoured darker coloured
people.
Another move from the New Zealand Government to set a White demise
across the world when their already a minority.
Christ's love
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
No more I would expect than a Southland team, or a Taranaki Team.
Judges1318
2009-02-19 23:16:48 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will). An ethnic Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football. Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction. Was, but not anymore!

Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage. Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism. That is
the very definition of racism. Maori AB are a racially determined team.

Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
David
2009-02-19 23:51:18 UTC
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On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had  second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores  being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will).  An ethnic Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football.  Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction.  Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage.  Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism.  That is
the very definition of racism.  Maori AB are a racially determined team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
In fact I believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.

The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Allistar
2009-02-20 01:25:18 UTC
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Post by David
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had  second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores  being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will).  An ethnic Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football.  Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction.  Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage.  Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism.  That is
the very definition of racism.  Maori AB are a racially determined team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
Post by David
In fact I believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
--
A.
Dafydd
2009-02-20 04:19:30 UTC
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Post by Allistar
Post by David
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had  second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores  being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will).  An ethnic Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football.  Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction.  Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage.  Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism.  That is
the very definition of racism.  Maori AB are a racially determined team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
Post by David
In fact I  believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
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Well they were racist when they were setup...
Mr. Scooter
2009-02-21 04:01:20 UTC
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On , , Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:19:30 -0800 (PST), Re: New Zealands Race
Post by Dafydd
Post by Allistar
Post by David
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had  second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores  being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will).  An ethnic Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football.  Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction.  Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage.  Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism.  That is
the very definition of racism.  Maori AB are a racially determined team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
Post by David
In fact I  believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
--
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Well they were racist when they were setup...
They are still racist now.
Imagine if there was an European rugby team?
A boarding school that only allowed european vhildren to attend.
Besides I am getting bloody sick of seeing that 75% of the arrests
made on a saturday night for drunkeness and violence are Maoris.
They only make up 20% of the population.

---
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.
ChristianKnight
2009-02-21 20:47:22 UTC
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Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:19:30 -0800 (PST), Re: New Zealands Race
Post by Dafydd
Post by Allistar
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will). An ethnic
Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football. Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction. Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage. Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism. That is
the very definition of racism. Maori AB are a racially determined
team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
In fact I believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
--
A.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well they were racist when they were setup...
They are still racist now.
Imagine if there was an European rugby team?
A boarding school that only allowed european vhildren to attend.
Besides I am getting bloody sick of seeing that 75% of the arrests
made on a saturday night for drunkeness and violence are Maoris.
They only make up 20% of the population.
---
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Christ's love
Mr. Scooter
2009-02-21 23:11:45 UTC
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On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
Post by ChristianKnight
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:19:30 -0800 (PST), Re: New Zealands Race
Post by Dafydd
Post by Allistar
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will). An ethnic
Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football. Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction. Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage. Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism. That is
the very definition of racism. Maori AB are a racially determined
team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
In fact I believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
--
A.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well they were racist when they were setup...
They are still racist now.
Imagine if there was an European rugby team?
A boarding school that only allowed european vhildren to attend.
Besides I am getting bloody sick of seeing that 75% of the arrests
made on a saturday night for drunkeness and violence are Maoris.
They only make up 20% of the population.
---
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.

---
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.
Allistar
2009-02-22 22:38:41 UTC
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Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
Post by ChristianKnight
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:19:30 -0800 (PST), Re: New Zealands Race
Post by Dafydd
Post by Allistar
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori
only Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced
rugby team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood
lineage. There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the
end, you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will
say You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will). An ethnic
Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football. Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction. Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage. Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism. That is
the very definition of racism. Maori AB are a racially determined
team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well
over the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
In fact I believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
--
A.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well they were racist when they were setup...
They are still racist now.
Imagine if there was an European rugby team?
A boarding school that only allowed european vhildren to attend.
Besides I am getting bloody sick of seeing that 75% of the arrests
made on a saturday night for drunkeness and violence are Maoris.
They only make up 20% of the population.
---
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
--
A.
Judges1318
2009-02-23 04:24:47 UTC
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Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
If they can have free medical care, on account that they are more
likely to have diabetes and such,
they should have restricted access to alcohol, on account that they
are cannot handle it.

Fair's fair.
Allistar
2009-02-24 00:18:24 UTC
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Post by Judges1318
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
If they can have free medical care, on account that they are more
likely to have diabetes and such,
they should have restricted access to alcohol, on account that they
are cannot handle it.
Fair's fair.
Fair is making people pay for their own health care, and hence be
responsbile for their own actions.

You cannot punish someone because they have similar traits to someone else
who cannot handle booze.
--
A.
Geopelia
2009-02-25 20:44:10 UTC
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Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
(some snipped for length)
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
Post by ChristianKnight
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
--
A.
We shouldn't be selling booze to women, if TV yesterday is right.
Apparently even moderate drinking may cause them cancer.

But imagine the uproar if anyone tried to bring in such a law!
A _L_ P
2009-02-25 21:54:08 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
We shouldn't be selling booze to women, if TV yesterday is right.
Apparently even moderate drinking may cause them cancer.
But imagine the uproar if anyone tried to bring in such a law!
Another case of statistics flung around like confetti. Increases the
risk... by X% has an informative value of 3 fifths of 5 eighths of sweet
fuck all when the original risk isn't stated. Even less useful when it
is in isolation, in this case no mention of any positive effects of
alcohol that can be statistically measured. And then there are the
immeasurables, such as its function as a component of pleasurable dining
and socialising, without which greater length of life may be of limited
value to an individual. It is also used for relaxing in stressful
times, also as a nightcap to assist getting to sleep when a person has
physical or emotional discomfort and may or may not be of value compared
with pharmaceuticals depending on whether this alcohol intake is use or
over-use.

Paul Thomas wrote in Saturday Jun 21, 2008's NZ Herald:

"...It sometimes seems as if the technique of inflating the threat to
encompass virtually everyone who isn't an abstainer has become the
blueprint for all health and safety campaigns.
Last year the British Government launched a campaign to shame
middle-class wine drinkers into cleaning up their acts, an initiative
eagerly parroted by the mouthpieces of our very own Nanny state.
The fact that the drinkers in question are law-abiding taxpayers
exercising their legal right in the privacy of their own homes doesn't
seem to enter into it.
Now Australia's National Health and Medical Research Council has
reportedly redrafted its guidelines on safe drinking to classify more
than three glasses of wine a night as binge drinking.
There are a couple of obvious problems here. The first is it's so far
removed from what sensible people know to be the case that they simply
won't pay any attention. Secondly, it renders a useful term meaningless
and therefore makes it harder to alert the public to what may well be a
genuine problem...."

A L P
Allistar
2009-02-25 22:35:46 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
(some snipped for length)
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
Post by ChristianKnight
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
--
A.
We shouldn't be selling booze to women, if TV yesterday is right.
"We"? Who is this "we" you refer to? Women should be able to buy alcohol if
they like - it's their own personal choice.
Post by Geopelia
Apparently even moderate drinking may cause them cancer.
Then they take their chances.
Post by Geopelia
But imagine the uproar if anyone tried to bring in such a law!
Of course their would be an uproar, and quite rightly so. Limiting what
supposedly free people can do is nothing short of slavery.
--
A.
unknown
2009-02-26 10:49:42 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
(some snipped for length)
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
Post by ChristianKnight
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
--
A.
We shouldn't be selling booze to women, if TV yesterday is right.
Apparently even moderate drinking may cause them cancer.\
sorry to be pedantic, but the claim for drinking women was that it
would increase their chance of cancer, somewhere between 2 and 13%
depending upon volume of booze consumed.

I don't know what the original percentages of getting cancer actually
are.

i've always been a bit confused on what these numbers actually mean,
for example, if the chances of a women getting cancer was, say, 10%
does that now mean that the chances of getting it are between 12 and
23% or, 10.02 and 10.13%, i suspect that it's the latter.
Post by Geopelia
But imagine the uproar if anyone tried to bring in such a law!
ChristianKnight
2009-03-14 18:22:38 UTC
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Post by Geopelia
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
(some snipped for length)
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
Post by ChristianKnight
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
--
A.
We shouldn't be selling booze to women, if TV yesterday is right.
Apparently even moderate drinking may cause them cancer.\
sorry to be pedantic, but the claim for drinking women was that it
would increase their chance of cancer, somewhere between 2 and 13%
depending upon volume of booze consumed.
I don't know what the original percentages of getting cancer actually
are.
i've always been a bit confused on what these numbers actually mean,
for example, if the chances of a women getting cancer was, say, 10%
does that now mean that the chances of getting it are between 12 and
23% or, 10.02 and 10.13%, i suspect that it's the latter.
Post by Geopelia
But imagine the uproar if anyone tried to bring in such a law!
I expect the chance of someone not getting cancer who has no caNCER CAUSES
is zero.
These statistics are from Patients not healthy people.
Can you get a cancer from unripened fruit?
Christ's love
Jasen Betts
2009-03-22 10:48:35 UTC
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Post by unknown
I don't know what the original percentages of getting cancer actually
are.
i've always been a bit confused on what these numbers actually mean,
for example, if the chances of a women getting cancer was, say, 10%
does that now mean that the chances of getting it are between 12 and
23% or, 10.02 and 10.13%, i suspect that it's the latter.
If the say a increase of between 2 and 13 percentage points thats
12 - 23%

If they say a increase of between 2 and 13 percent it's 10.02 - 10.13%

(that's if their editor is awake.)

the terms to watch for are "percentage points" and "percent"

percent is a ratio or fraction, percentage points are the units used
to measure it.
unknown
2009-03-22 23:32:13 UTC
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Post by unknown
I don't know what the original percentages of getting cancer actually
are.
i've always been a bit confused on what these numbers actually mean,
for example, if the chances of a women getting cancer was, say, 10%
does that now mean that the chances of getting it are between 12 and
23% or, 10.02 and 10.13%, i suspect that it's the latter.
If the say a increase of between 2 and 13 percentage points thats
12 - 23%
If they say a increase of between 2 and 13 percent it's 10.02 - 10.13%
(that's if their editor is awake.)
the terms to watch for are "percentage points" and "percent"
percent is a ratio or fraction, percentage points are the units used
to measure it.
I'm well aware what a percentage is, ratio, fraction or otherwise,
the point i was trying to make, and badly, was that newsreaders are
not terribly accutate in what they say, your point on percentage
points is well taken.

if it is an increase, in percentage terms, then in reality, it's
bugger all.
ChristianKnight
2009-03-23 08:17:24 UTC
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Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
(some snipped for length)
Post by Allistar
Post by Mr. Scooter
Post by ChristianKnight
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
Now THAT would be racist.
--
A.
We shouldn't be selling booze to women, if TV yesterday is right.
Apparently even moderate drinking may cause them cancer.\
sorry to be pedantic,  but the claim for drinking women was that it
would increase their chance of cancer,  somewhere between 2 and 13%
depending upon volume of booze consumed.
I don't know what the original percentages of getting cancer actually
are.
i've always been a bit confused on what these numbers actually mean,
for example, if the chances of a women getting cancer was,  say, 10%
does that now mean that the chances of getting it are between 12 and
23% or,  10.02 and 10.13%,  i suspect that it's the latter.
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I took it to mean that if 10 out a 100 had cancer then 12 % of 10 is
1.2
So 1.2 out of a hundred may have a drinking related cancer.
That is how I took that to mean. And my presumption is that percentage
may live healthily with a more moderate drinking regime.
Christ's love

ChristianKnight
2009-02-24 08:30:55 UTC
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On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
Post by ChristianKnight
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:19:30 -0800 (PST), Re: New Zealands Race
Post by Dafydd
Post by Allistar
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
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Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team? or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will). An ethnic
Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football. Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction. Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage. Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism. That is
the very definition of racism. Maori AB are a racially determined
team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
In fact I believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
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Well they were racist when they were setup...
They are still racist now.
Imagine if there was an European rugby team?
A boarding school that only allowed european vhildren to attend.
Besides I am getting bloody sick of seeing that 75% of the arrests
made on a saturday night for drunkeness and violence are Maoris.
They only make up 20% of the population.
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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
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Why not prove that booze remark with statistics .If not them at least
a web page that corroborates. Unless of course your writing from
experiance on the booze band wagons.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
2009-02-24 08:36:40 UTC
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Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:47:22 +1300, Re: New Zealands Race
relations conciliator a racist, "ChristianKnight"
Post by ChristianKnight
Post by Mr. Scooter
On , , Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:19:30 -0800 (PST), Re: New Zealands Race
Post by Dafydd
Post by Allistar
On Feb 20, 12:16 pm, Judges1318
Post by Judges1318
Post by Geopelia
Post by ChristianKnight
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
Would South Africa object to an Irish, Scots or Welsh Rugby team?
or an
English team with black players?
You can become an Irishman, regardless of the 'proper' blood lineage.
There is a procedure, waiting period, whatnot, but in the end,
you can stand up and say: I am an Irishman, and the Irish will say
You are one of us (well, in legal terms, they will). An ethnic
Korean,
Irish national, was a star in GAA football. Being Irish is not
a pure racial distiction. Was, but not anymore!
Maori are only the people of the 'proper' blood lineage. Only them!
Distinguishing people by 'proper' blood lineage is racism. That is
the very definition of racism. Maori AB are a racially determined
team.
Hence the understandable and commendable concern of ZARFU.
Good on them!
Hmmm... an ethical dilemma. There have been Maori teams for well over
the century.
That fact doesn't make it any less racist.
In fact I believe it was one of our southerners who invented the
silver fern.
The Maori seats are similar though some non-Maori register without
challenge.
Maori seats are also racist.
--
A.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well they were racist when they were setup...
They are still racist now.
Imagine if there was an European rugby team?
A boarding school that only allowed european vhildren to attend.
Besides I am getting bloody sick of seeing that 75% of the arrests
made on a saturday night for drunkeness and violence are Maoris.
They only make up 20% of the population.
---
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.
Then with the currant breeding rate when shall Maori be 75% from the
population and do the crime statistics futurely improve.
Then we shouldn't be selling booze to Maoris, it is evident that a
large percentage of them can't handle it.
---
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a weetbix.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Why not prove that booze remark with statistics .If not them at least
a web page that corroborates. Unless of course your writing from
experiance on the booze band wagons.
Christ's love- Hide quoted text -
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Helicop-ter I have to answer here I can not giet under you.
Refer Movie river Queen to learn New Zealand ordinary people frowned
upon Maori and Euro's getting on romantically.
\Christ's love
hellicopter
2009-02-19 22:06:49 UTC
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Post by ChristianKnight
The guy on one news tonight actually said he had written to South
Africa to pursuade them to play Rugby with New Zealands Maori only
Rugby team.
South Africa had second thoughts about allowing a Race baced rugby
team onto their shores being staunch anti racists.
New Zealand had tradtionally been racist and the Concilliator found no
reason why racisizim could flourish if it favoured darker coloured
people.
Another move from the New Zealand Government to set a White demise
across the world when their already a minority.
Christ's love
We are all the same race we interbreed!

To be racist a group needs to bar people from
interbreeding, restrict and punish interbreeding.

S.Africa has such a history, NZ does not.
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