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Tony
2021-03-29 19:34:47 UTC
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300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
John Bowes
2021-03-29 21:05:03 UTC
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300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
Awe. Come on Tony! Jacinda got a BRILLIANT 5 hour photo op ! :)
On a more serious note. How much is it going to cost the government to keep it running and how long will it last after the circus has to pack it tents and move to the Opposition benches? My bet is it'll be gone by lunch time along with the governments attempt to beggar landlords and tenants!
Rich80105
2021-03-29 21:39:15 UTC
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Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/300264358/commuter-rail-will-never-work-especially-in-canterbury
300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
The Coastal Pacific which is featured in the photo that includes the
Prime Minister is not intended to be a commuter train - it represents
the restoration of a popular tourism rail journey.

The rail new rail service between Auckland and Hamilton is a
relatively minor expansion of the Northerner that runs in each
direction three days a week. I suspect it is in reality a trial to see
whether there is much demand. We are well aware of the appalling lake
of adequate transport planning in Auckland which the journey far
longer than it should be, even without being able to run modern fast
trains. It also however highlights the poor planning of the
government, captured by the Road Tranport industry, that left upgrades
to rail out of the planning of the Waikato expressway. Economically,
fast rail freight links are very desirable between Auckland, Tauranga
and Hamilton, with possible extensions in time to either Rotorua or
Taupo. Leaving rail out of the land use considerations was yet another
failure of vision; and it is possible that the expanding housing
developments to the South of Auckland make identiying a fast train
route now urgent so that land can be acquired over time.

Similar considerations are relevant to the South Island where again a
fast train link the whole length of the island would have considerable
vlue, but probably needs to be built over time starting from a central
point such as Christchurch. Population may not result in much
passenger use for a long time in some places, but freight as a link to
ports is the key for the future.
JohnO
2021-03-29 21:47:34 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:34:47 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/300264358/commuter-rail-will-never-work-especially-in-canterbury
300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
The Coastal Pacific which is featured in the photo that includes the
Prime Minister is not intended to be a commuter train - it represents
the restoration of a popular tourism rail journey.
The rail new rail service between Auckland and Hamilton is a
relatively minor expansion of the Northerner that runs in each
direction three days a week. I suspect it is in reality a trial to see
whether there is much demand. We are well aware of the appalling lake
of adequate transport planning in Auckland which the journey far
longer than it should be, even without being able to run modern fast
trains. It also however highlights the poor planning of the
government, captured by the Road Tranport industry, that left upgrades
to rail out of the planning of the Waikato expressway. Economically,
fast rail freight links are very desirable between Auckland, Tauranga
and Hamilton, with possible extensions in time to either Rotorua or
Taupo. Leaving rail out of the land use considerations was yet another
failure of vision; and it is possible that the expanding housing
developments to the South of Auckland make identiying a fast train
route now urgent so that land can be acquired over time.
Similar considerations are relevant to the South Island where again a
fast train link the whole length of the island would have considerable
vlue, but probably needs to be built over time starting from a central
point such as Christchurch. Population may not result in much
passenger use for a long time in some places, but freight as a link to
ports is the key for the future.
Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million, launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.

As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible. In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and doesn't have very many people. Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line, and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail. What kind of idiot would consider spending billions of dollars on a rail project that would get a relatively tiny number of passengers per year and loss making for freight. It would be cheaper to buy a fleet of Teslas and employ chauffeurs to drive them!

This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
Rich80105
2021-03-29 22:56:40 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:34:47 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/300264358/commuter-rail-will-never-work-especially-in-canterbury
300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
The Coastal Pacific which is featured in the photo that includes the
Prime Minister is not intended to be a commuter train - it represents
the restoration of a popular tourism rail journey.
The rail new rail service between Auckland and Hamilton is a
relatively minor expansion of the Northerner that runs in each
direction three days a week. I suspect it is in reality a trial to see
whether there is much demand. We are well aware of the appalling lake
of adequate transport planning in Auckland which the journey far
longer than it should be, even without being able to run modern fast
trains. It also however highlights the poor planning of the
government, captured by the Road Tranport industry, that left upgrades
to rail out of the planning of the Waikato expressway. Economically,
fast rail freight links are very desirable between Auckland, Tauranga
and Hamilton, with possible extensions in time to either Rotorua or
Taupo. Leaving rail out of the land use considerations was yet another
failure of vision; and it is possible that the expanding housing
developments to the South of Auckland make identiying a fast train
route now urgent so that land can be acquired over time.
Similar considerations are relevant to the South Island where again a
fast train link the whole length of the island would have considerable
vlue, but probably needs to be built over time starting from a central
point such as Christchurch. Population may not result in much
passenger use for a long time in some places, but freight as a link to
ports is the key for the future.
Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million, launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible. In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and doesn't have very many people. Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line, and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail. What kind of idiot would consider spending billions of dollars on a rail project that would get a relatively tiny number of passengers per year and loss making for freight. It would be cheaper to buy a fleet of Teslas and employ chauffeurs to drive them!
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
You seem to be just a wee bit defensive about the botch job in the
Waikato - attempting to distract much?
JohnO
2021-03-29 23:18:37 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:34:47 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/300264358/commuter-rail-will-never-work-especially-in-canterbury
300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
The Coastal Pacific which is featured in the photo that includes the
Prime Minister is not intended to be a commuter train - it represents
the restoration of a popular tourism rail journey.
The rail new rail service between Auckland and Hamilton is a
relatively minor expansion of the Northerner that runs in each
direction three days a week. I suspect it is in reality a trial to see
whether there is much demand. We are well aware of the appalling lake
of adequate transport planning in Auckland which the journey far
longer than it should be, even without being able to run modern fast
trains. It also however highlights the poor planning of the
government, captured by the Road Tranport industry, that left upgrades
to rail out of the planning of the Waikato expressway. Economically,
fast rail freight links are very desirable between Auckland, Tauranga
and Hamilton, with possible extensions in time to either Rotorua or
Taupo. Leaving rail out of the land use considerations was yet another
failure of vision; and it is possible that the expanding housing
developments to the South of Auckland make identiying a fast train
route now urgent so that land can be acquired over time.
Similar considerations are relevant to the South Island where again a
fast train link the whole length of the island would have considerable
vlue, but probably needs to be built over time starting from a central
point such as Christchurch. Population may not result in much
passenger use for a long time in some places, but freight as a link to
ports is the key for the future.
Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million, launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible. In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and doesn't have very many people. Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line, and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail. What kind of idiot would consider spending billions of dollars on a rail project that would get a relatively tiny number of passengers per year and loss making for freight. It would be cheaper to buy a fleet of Teslas and employ chauffeurs to drive them!
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
You seem to be just a wee bit defensive about the botch job in the
Waikato - attempting to distract much?
So you admit this rail project is a botch job, Dickbot? Well done.

Apart from that your post is vacant of content or intelligence. Just like your cranium.
Rich80105
2021-03-30 00:21:22 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:34:47 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/300264358/commuter-rail-will-never-work-especially-in-canterbury
300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
The Coastal Pacific which is featured in the photo that includes the
Prime Minister is not intended to be a commuter train - it represents
the restoration of a popular tourism rail journey.
The rail new rail service between Auckland and Hamilton is a
relatively minor expansion of the Northerner that runs in each
direction three days a week. I suspect it is in reality a trial to see
whether there is much demand. We are well aware of the appalling lake
of adequate transport planning in Auckland which the journey far
longer than it should be, even without being able to run modern fast
trains. It also however highlights the poor planning of the
government, captured by the Road Tranport industry, that left upgrades
to rail out of the planning of the Waikato expressway. Economically,
fast rail freight links are very desirable between Auckland, Tauranga
and Hamilton, with possible extensions in time to either Rotorua or
Taupo. Leaving rail out of the land use considerations was yet another
failure of vision; and it is possible that the expanding housing
developments to the South of Auckland make identiying a fast train
route now urgent so that land can be acquired over time.
Similar considerations are relevant to the South Island where again a
fast train link the whole length of the island would have considerable
vlue, but probably needs to be built over time starting from a central
point such as Christchurch. Population may not result in much
passenger use for a long time in some places, but freight as a link to
ports is the key for the future.
Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million, launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible. In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and doesn't have very many people. Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line, and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail. What kind of idiot would consider spending billions of dollars on a rail project that would get a relatively tiny number of passengers per year and loss making for freight. It would be cheaper to buy a fleet of Teslas and employ chauffeurs to drive them!
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
You seem to be just a wee bit defensive about the botch job in the
Waikato - attempting to distract much?
So you admit this rail project is a botch job, Dickbot? Well done.
No, the limited vision when an expressway was put in is the problem.
They did not even think about upgrading the rail system. But you knew
that and are just trying to distract . . .
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Apart from that your post is vacant of content or intelligence. Just like your cranium.
JohnO
2021-03-30 04:23:31 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:34:47 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/300264358/commuter-rail-will-never-work-especially-in-canterbury
300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
The Coastal Pacific which is featured in the photo that includes the
Prime Minister is not intended to be a commuter train - it represents
the restoration of a popular tourism rail journey.
The rail new rail service between Auckland and Hamilton is a
relatively minor expansion of the Northerner that runs in each
direction three days a week. I suspect it is in reality a trial to see
whether there is much demand. We are well aware of the appalling lake
of adequate transport planning in Auckland which the journey far
longer than it should be, even without being able to run modern fast
trains. It also however highlights the poor planning of the
government, captured by the Road Tranport industry, that left upgrades
to rail out of the planning of the Waikato expressway. Economically,
fast rail freight links are very desirable between Auckland, Tauranga
and Hamilton, with possible extensions in time to either Rotorua or
Taupo. Leaving rail out of the land use considerations was yet another
failure of vision; and it is possible that the expanding housing
developments to the South of Auckland make identiying a fast train
route now urgent so that land can be acquired over time.
Similar considerations are relevant to the South Island where again a
fast train link the whole length of the island would have considerable
vlue, but probably needs to be built over time starting from a central
point such as Christchurch. Population may not result in much
passenger use for a long time in some places, but freight as a link to
ports is the key for the future.
Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million, launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible. In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and doesn't have very many people. Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line, and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail. What kind of idiot would consider spending billions of dollars on a rail project that would get a relatively tiny number of passengers per year and loss making for freight. It would be cheaper to buy a fleet of Teslas and employ chauffeurs to drive them!
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
You seem to be just a wee bit defensive about the botch job in the
Waikato - attempting to distract much?
So you admit this rail project is a botch job, Dickbot? Well done.
No, the limited vision when an expressway was put in is the problem.
They did not even think about upgrading the rail system. But you knew
that and are just trying to distract . . .
No, dummy. The expressway is a great success. That's why driving is so much faster than the stupid train.

I'm sure they did they about upgrading the train system then dismissed the idea as expensive and useless. That's because they are much brighter than you.
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Apart from that your post is vacant of content or intelligence. Just like your cranium.
Gordon
2021-03-30 06:54:05 UTC
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Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million,
launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
Post by JohnO
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible.
It sure is possible. The word you should have used was feasable.
Post by JohnO
In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and
doesn't have very many people.
So is the North Island. More people, yes. All of NZ poulation would be
nothing more than a suburb of a large world city.
Post by JohnO
Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line,
and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail.
This is true. Rail starts to punch hard when one has alot of freight to be
shifted over large distances. Not that easy to do in NZ.
Post by JohnO
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
Photo oppotunities, partisan branding, kite flying call it what you will.
They all do it.
George Black
2021-03-30 19:15:16 UTC
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Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million,
launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
Post by JohnO
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible.
It sure is possible. The word you should have used was feasable.
Post by JohnO
In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and
doesn't have very many people.
So is the North Island. More people, yes. All of NZ poulation would be
nothing more than a suburb of a large world city.
Post by JohnO
Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line,
and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail.
This is true. Rail starts to punch hard when one has alot of freight to be
shifted over large distances. Not that easy to do in NZ.
Post by JohnO
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
Photo oppotunities, partisan branding, kite flying call it what you will.
They all do it.
The rail gauge is to narrow for any high speed.
The track requires a great deal of upkeep to carry the increasing traffic.
How can you have a Hamilton = Auckland train that stops at Papakura?
Where are you going to find parking at Frankton Station for 300 cars
FAIL
Mutlley
2021-03-31 00:52:43 UTC
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Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million,
launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
Post by JohnO
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible.
It sure is possible. The word you should have used was feasable.
Post by JohnO
In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and
doesn't have very many people.
So is the North Island. More people, yes. All of NZ poulation would be
nothing more than a suburb of a large world city.
Post by JohnO
Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line,
and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail.
This is true. Rail starts to punch hard when one has alot of freight to be
shifted over large distances. Not that easy to do in NZ.
Post by JohnO
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
Photo oppotunities, partisan branding, kite flying call it what you will.
They all do it.
The rail gauge is to narrow for any high speed.
The track requires a great deal of upkeep to carry the increasing traffic.
How can you have a Hamilton = Auckland train that stops at Papakura?
Where are you going to find parking at Frankton Station for 300 cars
FAIL
I agree the rail gauge is too narrow for real high speed rail but on
the Gold Coast , AU the gauge is the same and the commuter elastics
get up to about 145 Kph going to Brisbane and faster north of there
with the Electric Tilt Train that runs at 160 Kph in service but can
go way faster than that on testing. I think you'll be lucky to hit 80
Kph on the Hamilton to Auckland service.
Mutlley
2021-03-31 03:48:07 UTC
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Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million,
launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
Post by JohnO
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible.
It sure is possible. The word you should have used was feasable.
Post by JohnO
In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and
doesn't have very many people.
So is the North Island. More people, yes. All of NZ poulation would be
nothing more than a suburb of a large world city.
Post by JohnO
Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line,
and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail.
This is true. Rail starts to punch hard when one has alot of freight to be
shifted over large distances. Not that easy to do in NZ.
Post by JohnO
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
Photo oppotunities, partisan branding, kite flying call it what you will.
They all do it.
The rail gauge is to narrow for any high speed.
The track requires a great deal of upkeep to carry the increasing traffic.
How can you have a Hamilton = Auckland train that stops at Papakura?
Where are you going to find parking at Frankton Station for 300 cars
FAIL
I agree the rail gauge is too narrow for real high speed rail but on
the Gold Coast , AU the gauge is the same and the commuter elastics
get up to about 145 Kph going to Brisbane and faster north of there
with the Electric Tilt Train that runs at 160 Kph in service but can
go way faster than that on testing. I think you'll be lucky to hit 80
Kph on the Hamilton to Auckland service.
commuter electric
JohnO
2021-03-30 20:49:21 UTC
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Your "minor extension", "trial" was a spend of $100 million,
launched with much fanfare by the dopey PM who seems to think that removing 300 cars a day was going to make a noticeable impact.
Post by JohnO
As to a "fast train link" running the length of the South Island... that's an even more stupid idea, if that's possible.
It sure is possible. The word you should have used was feasable.
I meant possible in the context of one idea being more stupid than another, not the context of whether a train line can be built.
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Post by JohnO
In case you hadn't noticed, the South Island is mountainous and
doesn't have very many people.
So is the North Island. More people, yes. All of NZ poulation would be
The North Island is not like the South Island though. The North Island has a few ranges which can be bypassed and some volcanoes. The South Island is dominated by a continuous alpine ranges from one end to the other andit is impossible to get from one coast to another without crossing them.

Mind you, a high speed train ride through the Raurimu Spiral would leave anything at Rainbow's End in its dust for excitement and G forces.
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nothing more than a suburb of a large world city.
Post by JohnO
Any freight would still have to be trucked from where it is produced to the line,
and the martialling, loading and unloading of this freight is a significant cost which is simply doubled by combining with rail.
This is true. Rail starts to punch hard when one has alot of freight to be
shifted over large distances. Not that easy to do in NZ.
Post by JohnO
This is the trouble with credulous lefty dimwits like Dickbot and Jacinda: they simply lack the intellect required to think through and reject stupid ideas.
Photo oppotunities, partisan branding, kite flying call it what you will.
They all do it.
True.
Tony
2021-03-30 02:04:01 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:34:47 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/300264358/commuter-rail-will-never-work-especially-in-canterbury
300 cars a day and a 5 hour commute.
Purely for show and with no real benefit to the community.
The Coastal Pacific which is featured in the photo that includes the
Prime Minister is not intended to be a commuter train - it represents
the restoration of a popular tourism rail journey.
Irrelevant off topic nonsense removed
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The rail new rail service between Auckland and Hamilton is a
relatively minor expansion of the Northerner that runs in each
direction three days a weekOff topic removed.
The new service is a commuter service according to the Prime Minister so I
assume she believes that to be the case.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/124650501/all-aboard-te-huia-hamilton-to-auckland-commuter-train-takes-off
"Speaking in Hamilton, Ardern said the commuter service symbolised three
things: tenacity, growth, and the challenge of climate change."
It is destined for failure and a total waste of money. There could be 100
cochlear implants for that money.
More irrelevance removed
Rich80105
2021-03-30 04:09:08 UTC
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Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!

So here is his total contribution to debate:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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More irrelevance removed
Tony
2021-03-30 04:57:25 UTC
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Tony posted a url
And Rich could not find anything to contribute and went away.
JohnO
2021-03-30 20:51:17 UTC
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Tony posted a url
And Rich could not find anything to contribute and went away.
At the end of the day, his $100m spend gets 300 cars off the road... *if* the train ride is fully occupied.

A mere $333,000 per car! Great work Labour. Bravo.
Tony
2021-03-30 21:38:04 UTC
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Tony posted a url
And Rich could not find anything to contribute and went away.
At the end of the day, his $100m spend gets 300 cars off the road... *if* the
train ride is fully occupied.
A mere $333,000 per car! Great work Labour. Bravo.
An excellent investment, but at least we get to see how humble the PM is by
taking a 20 minute train ride. She could take the 2.5 hour version whenever she
wants, there will always be plenty of seats.
Tony
2021-03-30 05:53:07 UTC
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Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
So who is correct?
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Gordon
2021-03-30 06:44:13 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
So who is correct?
Neither. It is not a commuter service, nor is it one. So both might be the
answer.
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Lets hope you get the truth in an answer.
John Bowes
2021-03-30 08:58:33 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
So who is correct?
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Tony, Rich only believes that Capitalism is bad and socialism/Communism/Marxism is good despite the fact his prefered form of government has only killed/enslaved/destroyed more people over the centuries than anything apart from a certain Middle eastern belief in invisible saviours!
Rich80105
2021-04-02 06:21:59 UTC
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Tony
2021-04-02 19:30:21 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
John Bowes
2021-04-02 21:17:48 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the government says it is.....
Rich80105
2021-04-02 21:52:11 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor - spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
James Christophers
2021-04-02 22:23:49 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor -
Yup, Master and Commander of the Stone Frigate "HMNZS Pooh", lost with all hands somewhere between Trentham Racecourse and Fergusson Drive ;-)
Post by Rich80105
- spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
John Bowes
2021-04-03 02:43:06 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor -
Yup, Master and Commander of the Stone Frigate "HMNZS Pooh", lost with all hands somewhere between Trentham Racecourse and Fergusson Drive ;-)
Now you're just being stupid Keith. No change there from the barrack stanchion of HMS <Newsman>/Linj/James Christopher always lost and confused somewhere around Portsmouth....
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
- spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
Not sure whether this fucking idiot is sillier than Keith.
Tony
2021-04-03 03:26:30 UTC
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Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a
commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist
services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the
government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor -
Yup, Master and Commander of the Stone Frigate "HMNZS Pooh", lost with all
hands somewhere between Trentham Racecourse and Fergusson Drive ;-)
Now you're just being stupid Keith. No change there from the barrack stanchion
of HMS <Newsman>/Linj/James Christopher always lost and confused somewhere
around Portsmouth....
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
- spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
Not sure whether this fucking idiot is sillier than Keith.
Actually John do you know who this "Undefined" person is? Maybe it is an
imaginary friend of someone here. Or maybe it is a will-o'-the-wisp or the
Beast of Bodmin Moor.
Nevertheless, Rich will continue to be sarcastic and abusive to any and all
that disagree with him. He never fails.
John Bowes
2021-04-03 04:47:50 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a
commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter
service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist
services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the
government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor -
Yup, Master and Commander of the Stone Frigate "HMNZS Pooh", lost with all
hands somewhere between Trentham Racecourse and Fergusson Drive ;-)
Now you're just being stupid Keith. No change there from the barrack stanchion
of HMS <Newsman>/Linj/James Christopher always lost and confused somewhere
around Portsmouth....
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
- spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
Not sure whether this fucking idiot is sillier than Keith.
Actually John do you know who this "Undefined" person is? Maybe it is an
imaginary friend of someone here. Or maybe it is a will-o'-the-wisp or the
Beast of Bodmin Moor.
Nevertheless, Rich will continue to be sarcastic and abusive to any and all
that disagree with him. He never fails.
He and his pilot are as predictable as the sunrise mate ;)
James Christophers
2021-04-03 05:24:25 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a
commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter
service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist
services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the
government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor -
Yup, Master and Commander of the Stone Frigate "HMNZS Pooh", lost with all
hands somewhere between Trentham Racecourse and Fergusson Drive ;-)
Now you're just being stupid Keith. No change there from the barrack stanchion
of HMS <Newsman>/Linj/James Christopher always lost and confused somewhere
around Portsmouth....
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
- spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
Not sure whether this fucking idiot is sillier than Keith.
Actually John do you know who this "Undefined" person is? Maybe it is an
imaginary friend of someone here. Or maybe it is a will-o'-the-wisp or the
Beast of Bodmin Moor.
Nevertheless, Rich will continue to be sarcastic and abusive to any and all
that disagree with him. He never fails.
This is an open and unmoderated democratic forum where, appropriately or not, "Rich", whoever they are, occasionally leavens discourse as he sees fit. It allows it to be made known that those who so obviously take themselves too seriously can expect to become the butt of their own condition.

"I such cases, "abuse" lies solely in the minds of those previously described. The more naturally disposed to resentfulness and recalcitrance they are the more likely any possible adverse comment is interpreted as abuse, even when a passing comment is no more than a light, good-for-the-soul tease. It's called "preciousness".

So lighten up, those of you who need to. You are voluntary members of a decidedly robust and unmoderated medium. Don't let it get the better of you.
John Bowes
2021-04-03 07:43:11 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that
he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot
net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a
commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter
service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist
services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the
government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor -
Yup, Master and Commander of the Stone Frigate "HMNZS Pooh", lost with all
hands somewhere between Trentham Racecourse and Fergusson Drive ;-)
Now you're just being stupid Keith. No change there from the barrack stanchion
of HMS <Newsman>/Linj/James Christopher always lost and confused somewhere
around Portsmouth....
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
- spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
Not sure whether this fucking idiot is sillier than Keith.
Actually John do you know who this "Undefined" person is? Maybe it is an
imaginary friend of someone here. Or maybe it is a will-o'-the-wisp or the
Beast of Bodmin Moor.
Nevertheless, Rich will continue to be sarcastic and abusive to any and all
that disagree with him. He never fails.
This is an open and unmoderated democratic forum where, appropriately or not, "Rich", whoever they are, occasionally leavens discourse as he sees fit. It allows it to be made known that those who so obviously take themselves too seriously can expect to become the butt of their own condition.
"I such cases, "abuse" lies solely in the minds of those previously described. The more naturally disposed to resentfulness and recalcitrance they are the more likely any possible adverse comment is interpreted as abuse, even when a passing comment is no more than a light, good-for-the-soul tease. It's called "preciousness".
So lighten up, those of you who need to. You are voluntary members of a decidedly robust and unmoderated medium. Don't let it get the better of you.
You (like Rich) need to try taking some of your own advice Keith and you know it!
Tony
2021-04-03 20:16:54 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by John Bowes
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:53:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did
not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material
that
he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot
net
Post by Tony
More irrelevance removed
So here is the truth.
Rich believes the the Hamilton to Auckland rail initiative is not a
commuter
service, the PM however does believe it is a commuter service.
It is a commuter service - a higher speed rail solution would be
better for both passenger and freight. Yes the service will be used by
commuters over part or all, but it will be used also by occasional
tavellers and tourists.
Post by Tony
So who is correct?
You confused yourself Tony - so you are not correct.
No you are the one that is confused. You said it was not a commuter
service and
now you said it was. Which is it?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Rich believes there are similarities between this and some tourist
services,
the PM is currently silent on that. Who is the smartest?
Just asking.
Waste of time asking Rich. He'll just blindly agree with what the
government says it is.....
Thre goes the part time Sunday Sailor -
Yup, Master and Commander of the Stone Frigate "HMNZS Pooh", lost with all
hands somewhere between Trentham Racecourse and Fergusson Drive ;-)
Now you're just being stupid Keith. No change there from the barrack stanchion
of HMS <Newsman>/Linj/James Christopher always lost and confused somewhere
around Portsmouth....
Post by James Christophers
Post by Rich80105
- spent a bit much time under
rather than over, did you John? "Undefined" is as confused as ever .
. .
Not sure whether this fucking idiot is sillier than Keith.
Actually John do you know who this "Undefined" person is? Maybe it is an
imaginary friend of someone here. Or maybe it is a will-o'-the-wisp or the
Beast of Bodmin Moor.
Nevertheless, Rich will continue to be sarcastic and abusive to any and all
that disagree with him. He never fails.
This is an open and unmoderated democratic forum where, appropriately or not,
"Rich", whoever they are, occasionally leavens discourse as he sees fit. It
allows it to be made known that those who so obviously take themselves too
seriously can expect to become the butt of their own condition.
"I such cases, "abuse" lies solely in the minds of those previously described.
The more naturally disposed to resentfulness and recalcitrance they are the
more likely any possible adverse comment is interpreted as abuse, even when a
passing comment is no more than a light, good-for-the-soul tease. It's called
"preciousness".
So lighten up, those of you who need to. You are voluntary members of a
decidedly robust and unmoderated medium. Don't let it get the better of you.
Any way you can justify your own abusive nature you will do so. And you are
doing so again here. You and Rich are serail abusers and as such deserve the
opprobrium you receive.
So you lighten up.

John Bowes
2021-03-30 08:56:20 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Tony posted a url with a brief comment, then as is his style did not
contribute, but when posts were not to his liking, he adopted yet
again the full extent of his intellect - by deleting material that he
could not answer - tony, the cut and run expert!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 21:04:01 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
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A damn good job by Tony. More of your irrelince should be removed on a daily basis Rich!
As to your stupid (yes stupid) crap about fast rail. Not feasable in new Zealand without throwing tens of billions of dollars (if not hundreds) because New Zealand doesn't have terrain condusive for fast rail as has been explained to you at great length in the past Rich!
Suggest you:
1. Get some comprehension skills.
2. Get some Google skills. and
3 Stop being a stupid little Marxist cunt defending his even stupider excuse for a totalitarian government!
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