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Tony
2020-02-04 05:59:26 UTC
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I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Crash
2020-02-04 06:27:50 UTC
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Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Rich is want to accuse National of toy-throwing, ignoring the many
episodes such as this one.

Is there any co-incidence between the PGF funds being thrown at
Northland, Shane Jones as a Northland electorate candidate, and NZF
polling about 3%? Bridges anyone ;-)


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Rich80105
2020-02-04 10:00:56 UTC
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On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Rich is want to accuse National of toy-throwing, ignoring the many
episodes such as this one.
Is there any co-incidence between the PGF funds being thrown at
Northland, Shane Jones as a Northland electorate candidate, and NZF
polling about 3%? Bridges anyone ;-)
I wondered why Simon Bridges was being grumpy - did someone ask him
about the bridges?
John Bowes
2020-02-05 04:44:01 UTC
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Post by Crash
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Rich is want to accuse National of toy-throwing, ignoring the many
episodes such as this one.
Is there any co-incidence between the PGF funds being thrown at
Northland, Shane Jones as a Northland electorate candidate, and NZF
polling about 3%? Bridges anyone ;-)
I wondered why Simon Bridges was being grumpy - did someone ask him
about the bridges?
Nope. Winston's getting asked where they all are Rich :)
Rich80105
2020-02-04 09:59:40 UTC
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Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
Tony
2020-02-04 19:43:02 UTC
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On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
Yeah right!
Total nonsense, there is no spin just Peters at his usual level of rudeness.
Rich80105
2020-02-05 03:22:09 UTC
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Post by Crash
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
Yeah right!
Total nonsense, there is no spin just Peters at his usual level of rudeness.
So you dribble out more spin. Your spin is barely tuurning, however,
Tony; I don't think you are convincing anyone.
Tony
2020-02-05 03:57:25 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 13:43:02 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
Yeah right!
Total nonsense, there is no spin just Peters at his usual level of rudeness.
So you dribble out more spin. Your spin is barely tuurning, however,
Tony; I don't think you are convincing anyone.
Liar. His behaviour was clear for all except you to see.
Rich80105
2020-02-05 04:38:20 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 21:57:25 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 13:43:02 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
Yeah right!
Total nonsense, there is no spin just Peters at his usual level of rudeness.
So you dribble out more spin. Your spin is barely tuurning, however,
Tony; I don't think you are convincing anyone.
Liar. His behaviour was clear for all except you to see.
Look at it again, Tony. The Prime Miniser would expect to be
accompanied by senior governmetn members, broadly in order of
seniority. She is seen having a small word to Shaw who moves across.
Its more a question of protocol really, and what the audience would
expect. If anything Shaw was out of place being being ahead of the PM;
Bridges was in his correct position and was unphased by Shaw moving
next to him. Still, some will try and diss Winston Peters on teh most
fatuous of grounds . . .
John Bowes
2020-02-05 04:45:29 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 21:57:25 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 13:43:02 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
Yeah right!
Total nonsense, there is no spin just Peters at his usual level of rudeness.
So you dribble out more spin. Your spin is barely tuurning, however,
Tony; I don't think you are convincing anyone.
Liar. His behaviour was clear for all except you to see.
Look at it again, Tony. The Prime Miniser would expect to be
accompanied by senior governmetn members, broadly in order of
seniority. She is seen having a small word to Shaw who moves across.
Its more a question of protocol really, and what the audience would
expect. If anything Shaw was out of place being being ahead of the PM;
Bridges was in his correct position and was unphased by Shaw moving
next to him. Still, some will try and diss Winston Peters on teh most
fatuous of grounds . . .
More a question of your blind support of an ever more corrupt and useless pack of losers who owe everything to Winston and nothing to the voters!
Tony
2020-02-05 04:50:33 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 13:43:02 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 23:59:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
Yeah right!
Total nonsense, there is no spin just Peters at his usual level of rudeness.
So you dribble out more spin. Your spin is barely tuurning, however,
Tony; I don't think you are convincing anyone.
Liar. His behaviour was clear for all except you to see.
Look at it again, Tony. The Prime Miniser would expect to be
accompanied by senior governmetn members, broadly in order of
seniority. She is seen having a small word to Shaw who moves across.
Its more a question of protocol really, and what the audience would
expect. If anything Shaw was out of place being being ahead of the PM;
Bridges was in his correct position and was unphased by Shaw moving
next to him.
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then when Bridges
was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a neighbour. Truth is clear.
George
2020-02-05 19:10:06 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:50:33 -0600
Post by Tony
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then
when Bridges was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a
neighbour. Truth is clear.
Normal political posturing.
At a political event
Rich80105
2020-02-05 20:12:50 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:50:33 -0600
Post by Tony
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then
when Bridges was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a
neighbour. Truth is clear.
Normal political posturing.
At a political event
And you continue the insult by Simon Bridges to the event, to the
people there, and to the people of New Zealand. None of the other
speakers pointed to the failures of the previous government; Simon
Bridges gave a partisan election year speech directed to his largely
non-Maori supporters away from the Treaty Ground. His disrespect will
have been noted; National will again not win any of the Maori seats at
the next election so Bridges used the event to feed the prejudices of
idiots like Tony who also hold the view that discussion from those he
does not agree with should be ignored (and in Tony's case, deleted).
Tony
2020-02-06 00:12:45 UTC
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Post by George
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:50:33 -0600
Post by Tony
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then
when Bridges was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a
neighbour. Truth is clear.
Normal political posturing.
At a political event
And you continue the insult by Simon Bridges to the event, to the
people there, and to the people of New Zealand. None of the other
speakers pointed to the failures of the previous government; Simon
Bridges gave a partisan election year speech directed to his largely
non-Maori supporters away from the Treaty Ground. His disrespect will
have been noted; National will again not win any of the Maori seats at
the next election so Bridges used the event to feed the prejudices of
idiots like Tony who also hold the view that discussion from those he
does not agree with should be ignored (and in Tony's case, deleted).
Entirely off topic, this post is about the rudeness of Peters.
Idiots like you cannot keep to the point.
Interestingly however you did not ignore or delete anything, you just changed
the subject (somewhat normal for you).
Rich80105
2020-02-06 05:42:14 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:50:33 -0600
Post by Tony
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then
when Bridges was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a
neighbour. Truth is clear.
Normal political posturing.
At a political event
And you continue the insult by Simon Bridges to the event, to the
people there, and to the people of New Zealand. None of the other
speakers pointed to the failures of the previous government; Simon
Bridges gave a partisan election year speech directed to his largely
non-Maori supporters away from the Treaty Ground. His disrespect will
have been noted; National will again not win any of the Maori seats at
the next election so Bridges used the event to feed the prejudices of
idiots like Tony who also hold the view that discussion from those he
does not agree with should be ignored (and in Tony's case, deleted).
Entirely off topic, this post is about the rudeness of Peters.
You haven't shown there was any rudeness of Peters. Still, that is
your unsupported opinion - and according to you any other opinion is
off topic . . .
Post by Tony
Idiots like you cannot keep to the point.
Interestingly however you did not ignore or delete anything, you just changed
the subject (somewhat normal for you).
Only you delete arguments that do not support you, Tony, you know
that.

As it was, Bridges was clearly embarrased at hs poor showing; he
slinked off this morning. You lack of acceptance of protocols
concerning reception of ginitaries is presumably due to your lack of
exposure to any senior political figures; your inclination to see any
view, or even evidence that does not support your ignorant
self-serving views is all your own problem.
Tony
2020-02-06 05:56:02 UTC
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On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 18:12:45 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:50:33 -0600
Post by Tony
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then
when Bridges was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a
neighbour. Truth is clear.
Normal political posturing.
At a political event
And you continue the insult by Simon Bridges to the event, to the
people there, and to the people of New Zealand. None of the other
speakers pointed to the failures of the previous government; Simon
Bridges gave a partisan election year speech directed to his largely
non-Maori supporters away from the Treaty Ground. His disrespect will
have been noted; National will again not win any of the Maori seats at
the next election so Bridges used the event to feed the prejudices of
idiots like Tony who also hold the view that discussion from those he
does not agree with should be ignored (and in Tony's case, deleted).
Entirely off topic, this post is about the rudeness of Peters.
You haven't shown there was any rudeness of Peters. Still, that is
your unsupported opinion - and according to you any other opinion is
off topic . . .
Post by Tony
Idiots like you cannot keep to the point.
Interestingly however you did not ignore or delete anything, you just changed
the subject (somewhat normal for you).
Only you delete arguments that do not support you, Tony, you know
that.
As it was, Bridges was clearly embarrased at hs poor showing; he
slinked off this morning. You lack of acceptance of protocols
concerning reception of ginitaries is presumably due to your lack of
exposure to any senior political figures; your inclination to see any
view, or even evidence that does not support your ignorant
self-serving views is all your own problem.
Peters was rude, you know it, even the PM knows it.
The evidence is in the video that everybody in NZ watched except perhaps you.
Rich80105
2020-02-06 08:07:45 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 18:12:45 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:50:33 -0600
Post by Tony
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then
when Bridges was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a
neighbour. Truth is clear.
Normal political posturing.
At a political event
And you continue the insult by Simon Bridges to the event, to the
people there, and to the people of New Zealand. None of the other
speakers pointed to the failures of the previous government; Simon
Bridges gave a partisan election year speech directed to his largely
non-Maori supporters away from the Treaty Ground. His disrespect will
have been noted; National will again not win any of the Maori seats at
the next election so Bridges used the event to feed the prejudices of
idiots like Tony who also hold the view that discussion from those he
does not agree with should be ignored (and in Tony's case, deleted).
Entirely off topic, this post is about the rudeness of Peters.
You haven't shown there was any rudeness of Peters. Still, that is
your unsupported opinion - and according to you any other opinion is
off topic . . .
Post by Tony
Idiots like you cannot keep to the point.
Interestingly however you did not ignore or delete anything, you just changed
the subject (somewhat normal for you).
Only you delete arguments that do not support you, Tony, you know
that.
As it was, Bridges was clearly embarrased at hs poor showing; he
slinked off this morning. You lack of acceptance of protocols
concerning reception of ginitaries is presumably due to your lack of
exposure to any senior political figures; your inclination to see any
view, or even evidence that does not support your ignorant
self-serving views is all your own problem.
Peters was rude, you know it, even the PM knows it.
The journalists were looking for a "Gotcha" moment following Simon
Bridgesbeing about as rude as it is possible to get to Winstone Peters
only a short time before. They didn;t get it, but made up a story
which you of course gleefully followed. Poor Simon was left to creep
away the following morning . . .
Post by Tony
The evidence is in the video that everybody in NZ watched except perhaps you.
Look again, all it was was Ardern wanting the Deputy PM next to her as
they entered. <y opinion is at least as valuable as yours - so
there!!!
Tony
2020-02-06 19:41:32 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 18:12:45 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by George
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:50:33 -0600
Post by Tony
Silliness off topic removed.
Watch it again, all is clear. Peters was rude and he knew it, then
when Bridges was speaking he smirked and the PM chatted with a
neighbour. Truth is clear.
Normal political posturing.
At a political event
And you continue the insult by Simon Bridges to the event, to the
people there, and to the people of New Zealand. None of the other
speakers pointed to the failures of the previous government; Simon
Bridges gave a partisan election year speech directed to his largely
non-Maori supporters away from the Treaty Ground. His disrespect will
have been noted; National will again not win any of the Maori seats at
the next election so Bridges used the event to feed the prejudices of
idiots like Tony who also hold the view that discussion from those he
does not agree with should be ignored (and in Tony's case, deleted).
Entirely off topic, this post is about the rudeness of Peters.
You haven't shown there was any rudeness of Peters. Still, that is
your unsupported opinion - and according to you any other opinion is
off topic . . .
Post by Tony
Idiots like you cannot keep to the point.
Interestingly however you did not ignore or delete anything, you just changed
the subject (somewhat normal for you).
Only you delete arguments that do not support you, Tony, you know
that.
As it was, Bridges was clearly embarrased at hs poor showing; he
slinked off this morning. You lack of acceptance of protocols
concerning reception of ginitaries is presumably due to your lack of
exposure to any senior political figures; your inclination to see any
view, or even evidence that does not support your ignorant
self-serving views is all your own problem.
Peters was rude, you know it, even the PM knows it.
The journalists were looking for a "Gotcha" moment following Simon
Bridgesbeing about as rude as it is possible to get to Winstone Peters
only a short time before. They didn;t get it, but made up a story
which you of course gleefully followed. Poor Simon was left to creep
away the following morning . . .
Post by Tony
The evidence is in the video that everybody in NZ watched except perhaps you.
Look again, all it was was Ardern wanting the Deputy PM next to her as
they entered. <y opinion is at least as valuable as yours - so
there!!!
Your opinion is a made up story. Mine is based on the video.

John Bowes
2020-02-05 04:43:18 UTC
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Post by Tony
I was at a friend's and he preferres TV3, this was classic childishness.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119278214/winston-peters-wont-stand-next-to-simon-bridges-at-waitangi-powhiri
Followed by a smirk from Peters and chatting to a neighbour by the PM.
Neither Labour or NZ First deserve re-election. Almost anybody else will do
better.
Possibly a bit of spin here - it looked more as though he believed
that as Deputy PM he should be next to the PM. Winston knows where the
cameras would be pointed, and Bridges being grumpy just wouldn't
deliver the publicity shots a real politician values . . .
You claiming the shyster Peters is a 'real' politician? Or do suffer under the misapprehension that Labour/Green/NZF have more than a couple of 'real' politicians:)
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