Post by John Cawston Post by -Newsman-
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:45:58 +1300, Sue Bilstein
Post by George.com Post by E. Scrooge
Just how much longer is Helen Clark going to put up with political bully
Trevor Mallard for. Not forgetting that she's already threatened to use a
police taser on him earlier in the year.
Surely Mallard should be charged by police for assault?
Get a life Scrooge, for pity sake. Mallard and Henare and 2 of a kind.
Henare goaded Mallard, Mallard gave him a bit of a push or a slap or the
Mallard punched Henare...
,,who was up for it by acceopting then invitation to "step outside".
Post by George.com
The 2 were out of order, they had a small set to, Mallard apologised,
both party leaders told them to grow up, really end of story.
Maybe if Mallard had given one of the National party gentleman a roughing up
then it would be serious stuff. Henare gives as good as he gets. Mallard was
stupid, Henare was stupid. Neither of them are choirboys, don't bother us
with sanctimonious bullshit & we can all get on with more important things.
Only Mallard is in charge of a ministry which is running a
multimillion-dollar ad campaign with the message that violence is
But you, I and everyone else including members of the government know
the campaign is little more than a papering over the cracks.
And you, I and everyone else, including members of the government know
the serious personality flaws in Mallard in Henare, neither of whom
seems to have had either the upbringing or the maturity to sublimate
Further, and more to the point, while this silly mealymouthed campaign
lines the pockets of those working in its own infrastructure from
taxpayer funds, television in New Zealand and every video shop are
making millions out of the routine glorification and normalising of
abuse and violence.
New Zealanders have only themselves to blame when their very own
violence industry is not only permitted such open-slather access to
each new generation of immature and suggestible minds, but the very TV
channels that they own - and their corporate advertisers - directly
profit from such socially regressive material.
It can therefore only be that the routine institutionalised
hand-wringing and "campaigns" represent no more than the sanctimonious
behaviour of a nation of hypocritical purse-lipped Pontius Pilates,
bereft of all inspiration or vision, but, of course, more than happy
to profit, however indirectly, from the misery that their own
violence-promoting media brings them.
You are exhibiting the typical blokey blindness that's so
prevalent in this country towards the problems of sexual abuse of
Not at all. These problems are and have been endemic since long before
you and I were born; they are prevalent in most of western society and
should therefore surprise no one today. Society in general may
profess to be shocked and repelled by it, but it ain't going to go
away until the risk of being caught and level of subsequent punishment
exceed the compulsion to offend. Because compulsion is the term,
John, and in any category you can name it's one of nature's most
powerful and irresistible drivers.
I reckon that's not likely to happen any time soon especially in a
country with an overtly homosexualist and deviationist government that
approves and encourages male-to-male buggery, endowing it with a
high-minded respectability in so-called "civil unions" to approve,
legitimise and celebrate such behaviour. But the adult male
homosexual and the adult male boy-molester are one and the same, the
only difference being that the immature awareness and vulnerability of
the target victim draw the some homosexuals in that direction.
Because, finesse it as one may try, in the end buggery is buggery no
matter who is dealing it to whom, and in New Zealand buggery is now
officially sanctioned and promoted as a thoroughly good thing. Your
homosexualist government and judiciary say so and now, with their full
backing, your homosexualist government's homosexual acolytes may now
safely rejoice, free under the pro-buggery imprimatur of this proud
nation's collective citizens' mandate. That's democracy, liberalism
and freedom for you, John, so why not raise a glass right now to to
all the buggers (not forgetting all the buggered as well) for what has
been so hard won *in your name*?
Post by John Cawston
It's quite clear that these two men were molested as
youngsters and are just repeating the "cycle of violence" in
Doubtless they are, but when the police in this country are reportedly
called at intervals of 7.5 minutes 24/7 to incidents involiving
physical violence, you know perfectly well that paedophilia is not the
root cause of them.
Post by John Cawston
How can these men become useful in our society when they repress
having their todgers tugged as toddlers whilst playing "gang
On the assumption that you aren't being sardonic, then I have to say I
don't know. But what do *you* think they should do, John? Perhaps
these historical "victims" could take themselves to the steps of
Parliament and invite this nation's homosexual MPs to call for an
adjournment of the sitting to come out and give the grieving men's
todgers a public tugging just for old time's sake? Maybe also even
throw in a quick rear-end shafting gratis so that, with full TV
coverage being a given, their nationwide audience may "understand"
If you don't think that would work, then what else might?