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Tony
2020-09-25 20:22:30 UTC
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James Christophers
2020-09-25 22:47:30 UTC
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Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this year's total arts budget.
Tony
2020-09-26 00:27:30 UTC
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Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
James Christophers
2020-09-26 01:16:05 UTC
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https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
Aren't they always?
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But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Only to be expected when countries are run by people. Some might even drily observe that if only 0.2% of any New Zealand government's total behaviour were silly we'd all have something to be more than grateful for.
Tony
2020-09-26 04:49:50 UTC
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Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
Aren't they always?
Speak for yourself.
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Only to be expected when countries are run by people. Some might even drily
observe that if only 0.2% of any New Zealand government's total behaviour were
silly we'd all have something to be more than grateful for.
However for this government 0.2% of promised achievements would be a nice
change.
Rich80105
2020-09-26 06:21:12 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
Aren't they always?
Speak for yourself.
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Only to be expected when countries are run by people. Some might even drily
observe that if only 0.2% of any New Zealand government's total behaviour were
silly we'd all have something to be more than grateful for.
However for this government 0.2% of promised achievements would be a nice
change.
And in the spirit of another thread, we are happy that you feel you
are able to state such a silly unsupported opinion - after all, as you
have pointed out often, you are entitled to express anything you like
- and I am sure you will agree that supporting your right to do that
is part of the commitments achieved by this government.
Tony
2020-09-26 06:43:59 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 23:49:50 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity
to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
Aren't they always?
Speak for yourself.
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Only to be expected when countries are run by people. Some might even drily
observe that if only 0.2% of any New Zealand government's total behaviour were
silly we'd all have something to be more than grateful for.
However for this government 0.2% of promised achievements would be a nice
change.
And in the spirit of another thread, we are happy that you feel you
are able to state such a silly unsupported opinion - after all, as you
have pointed out often, you are entitled to express anything you like
- and I am sure you will agree that supporting your right to do that
is part of the commitments achieved by this government.
I can agree that my right to express an opinion far supersedes your right to
criticise my opinions, with no evidence of your own, by a country mile.
But this government did not give me any rights that I did not previously have.
John Bowes
2020-09-26 11:09:28 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 23:49:50 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
Aren't they always?
Speak for yourself.
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Only to be expected when countries are run by people. Some might even drily
observe that if only 0.2% of any New Zealand government's total behaviour were
silly we'd all have something to be more than grateful for.
However for this government 0.2% of promised achievements would be a nice
change.
And in the spirit of another thread, we are happy that you feel you
are able to state such a silly unsupported opinion - after all, as you
have pointed out often, you are entitled to express anything you like
- and I am sure you will agree that supporting your right to do that
is part of the commitments achieved by this government.
BULLSHIT! This government is hell bent on removing freedom of speech and no lies you push can ever change that fact Rich!
Rich80105
2020-09-26 06:17:09 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Tony
2020-09-26 06:44:32 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
Rich80105
2020-09-26 09:18:29 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
John Bowes
2020-09-26 11:13:06 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Don't be a fucking imbecile Rich. Tony has made no post that supports that bullshit and never has! Now stop being a fucking imbecile and start behaving like responsible adult !

We only know of a bloody mullah and overstaying Iranian tourist who want our freedom of speech removed!
Tony
2020-09-26 19:38:26 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
I didn't mention the flag, it was your stupid idea to do that. As I said it is
off topic so go away and start your own thread - what an idiot you are.
Nellie the Elephant
2020-09-27 00:16:21 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
Rich80105
2020-09-27 01:50:48 UTC
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Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
Nellie the Elephant
2020-09-27 02:20:09 UTC
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Rich80105
2020-09-27 03:28:53 UTC
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Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?

This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.

Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
Nellie the Elephant
2020-09-27 19:24:21 UTC
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:20:09 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun
with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?
Do you ever stick to a subject?
Post by Rich80105
This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.
Does not affect the argument at all.
Post by Rich80105
Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
You get sillier with every post.
Rich80105
2020-09-27 19:59:09 UTC
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Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:20:09 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun
with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct
word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?
Do you ever stick to a subject?
Yes, I am querying whether the statement "Shane Jones at his worst" is
correct. I suspect these decisions had nothing to do with Jones.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.
Does not affect the argument at all.
It goes to the purpose of the spending. This was a sector that was
significantly affected by Covid - live performances and sales of art
objects would have stopped; the money would have been intended to give
the ability to continue in the industry through a difficult period
while also providing spending that assisted businesses - supporting
business through continued domestic activity is one of the reasons we
have come through the highewr Covid levels in such a good economic
position; the government supported bot the arts and business . . .
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
You get sillier with every post.
What was silly about the query? I note yu have not attempted to answer
the question.
Tony
2020-09-27 20:48:14 UTC
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:20:09 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the
opportunity to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun
with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2%
of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct
word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?
Do you ever stick to a subject?
Yes, I am querying whether the statement "Shane Jones at his worst" is
correct. I suspect these decisions had nothing to do with Jones.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.
Does not affect the argument at all.
It goes to the purpose of the spending. This was a sector that was
significantly affected by Covid - live performances and sales of art
objects would have stopped; the money would have been intended to give
the ability to continue in the industry through a difficult period
while also providing spending that assisted businesses - supporting
business through continued domestic activity is one of the reasons we
have come through the highewr Covid levels in such a good economic
position; the government supported bot the arts and business . . .
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
You get sillier with every post.
What was silly about the query? I note yu have not attempted to answer
the question.
Obviousky Nellie was not prepared to answer a question that was off topic.
You have tried to hijack this thread but the point remains valid, a sheer waste
of money, the amount is irrelevant.
John Bowes
2020-09-27 22:07:18 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 08:24:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:20:09 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the
opportunity to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have
fun
with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2%
of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the
correct
word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?
Do you ever stick to a subject?
Yes, I am querying whether the statement "Shane Jones at his worst" is
correct. I suspect these decisions had nothing to do with Jones.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.
Does not affect the argument at all.
It goes to the purpose of the spending. This was a sector that was
significantly affected by Covid - live performances and sales of art
objects would have stopped; the money would have been intended to give
the ability to continue in the industry through a difficult period
while also providing spending that assisted businesses - supporting
business through continued domestic activity is one of the reasons we
have come through the highewr Covid levels in such a good economic
position; the government supported bot the arts and business . . .
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
You get sillier with every post.
What was silly about the query? I note yu have not attempted to answer
the question.
Obviousky Nellie was not prepared to answer a question that was off topic.
You have tried to hijack this thread but the point remains valid, a sheer waste
of money, the amount is irrelevant.
Much like Rich and his alter ego Keith :)
Rich80105
2020-09-28 02:47:35 UTC
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:48:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 08:24:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:20:09 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the
opportunity to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have
fun
with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2%
of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct
word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?
Do you ever stick to a subject?
Yes, I am querying whether the statement "Shane Jones at his worst" is
correct. I suspect these decisions had nothing to do with Jones.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.
Does not affect the argument at all.
It goes to the purpose of the spending. This was a sector that was
significantly affected by Covid - live performances and sales of art
objects would have stopped; the money would have been intended to give
the ability to continue in the industry through a difficult period
while also providing spending that assisted businesses - supporting
business through continued domestic activity is one of the reasons we
have come through the highewr Covid levels in such a good economic
position; the government supported bot the arts and business . . .
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
You get sillier with every post.
What was silly about the query? I note yu have not attempted to answer
the question.
Obviousky Nellie was not prepared to answer a question that was off topic.
You have tried to hijack this thread but the point remains valid, a sheer waste
of money, the amount is irrelevant.
Nothing off topic at all - the payments to the Taxpayer union were
part of the Covid payments that were intended to widley distribute
money to be used to keep businesses going and workers in employment -
it turns out to have been a very good strategy, with the wide
distribution assisting in ensuring all parts of the country
benefitted. Doubtless that success will be reflected in the results of
the election.
Tony
2020-09-28 03:02:52 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:48:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 08:24:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:20:09 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the
opportunity to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have
fun
with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2%
of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the
correct
word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?
Do you ever stick to a subject?
Yes, I am querying whether the statement "Shane Jones at his worst" is
correct. I suspect these decisions had nothing to do with Jones.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.
Does not affect the argument at all.
It goes to the purpose of the spending. This was a sector that was
significantly affected by Covid - live performances and sales of art
objects would have stopped; the money would have been intended to give
the ability to continue in the industry through a difficult period
while also providing spending that assisted businesses - supporting
business through continued domestic activity is one of the reasons we
have come through the highewr Covid levels in such a good economic
position; the government supported bot the arts and business . . .
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
You get sillier with every post.
What was silly about the query? I note yu have not attempted to answer
the question.
Obviousky Nellie was not prepared to answer a question that was off topic.
You have tried to hijack this thread but the point remains valid, a sheer waste
of money, the amount is irrelevant.
Nothing off topic at all - the payments to the Taxpayer union were
part of the Covid payments that were intended to widley distribute
money to be used to keep businesses going and workers in employment -
it turns out to have been a very good strategy, with the wide
distribution assisting in ensuring all parts of the country
benefitted. Doubtless that success will be reflected in the results of
the election.
Nonsense. You are are still changing the subject.
Go away you childish little man.
John Bowes
2020-09-28 03:28:20 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:48:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 08:24:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:20:09 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the
opportunity to
get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have
fun
with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2%
of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the
correct
word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
No of course not. Certainly not "proprtionately (sic)". You are a
childish piece if garbage and we all know it, especially you.
Why do you pick on typos by other people and yet make more typing
mistakes than all of the other users in nzgenera put togetherl?
The OP made a valid point and you dismissed it with a change of topic
and rudeness. Obviously some of the grants were a waste of my money,
Shane Jones at his worst.
You add nothing but shame to this ng. You at your worst.
Was Shane Jones invoved in CreativeNZ?
Do you ever stick to a subject?
Yes, I am querying whether the statement "Shane Jones at his worst" is
correct. I suspect these decisions had nothing to do with Jones.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
This was Covid19 response funding; it has now stopped; it kept a lot
of people busy and invovled and spending money; the amount being
objected to was very small.
Does not affect the argument at all.
It goes to the purpose of the spending. This was a sector that was
significantly affected by Covid - live performances and sales of art
objects would have stopped; the money would have been intended to give
the ability to continue in the industry through a difficult period
while also providing spending that assisted businesses - supporting
business through continued domestic activity is one of the reasons we
have come through the highewr Covid levels in such a good economic
position; the government supported bot the arts and business . . .
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
Was the money provided under covid response provisions to The Taxpayer
Union a similar waste opf money?
You get sillier with every post.
What was silly about the query? I note yu have not attempted to answer
the question.
Obviousky Nellie was not prepared to answer a question that was off topic.
You have tried to hijack this thread but the point remains valid, a sheer waste
of money, the amount is irrelevant.
Nothing off topic at all - the payments to the Taxpayer union were
part of the Covid payments that were intended to widley distribute
money to be used to keep businesses going and workers in employment -
it turns out to have been a very good strategy, with the wide
distribution assisting in ensuring all parts of the country
benefitted. Doubtless that success will be reflected in the results of
the election.
Only in your biased opinion Rich. Small businesses have got nothing from the government and the handouts the Taxpayers Union listed aren't helping small businesses but individuals with wacky ideas that'll never come to fruition! In other words a total waste of taxpayer funds for more feel good stupidity for fucking imbeciles like you and Ardern!
James Christophers
2020-09-27 04:01:57 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:16:21 +1300, Nellie the Elephant
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It is easy for many people to relate to small numbers, but to not
really see that much bigger numbers can be proprtionately more
important. Some would see the larger waste as being more Facsinating,
do you agree?
Mmmm... well, a fascinated facsist might, but who shall say?
John Bowes
2020-09-27 04:47:09 UTC
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Post by Nellie the Elephant
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:44:32 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Irrelevant off topic drivel as usual.
So you want to defend the cost of $18 million do you? Give it your
best shot, Tony . . . .
Are you serious? Have you been at the sherry or suffering from
dementia?
It's the ever sillier Rich trying to get away from yet another waste of taxpayers funds by his glorious Marxist Labour party :)
John Bowes
2020-09-26 11:08:00 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:27:30 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this
year's total arts budget.
The list is a long way short of complete.
But the point is that some of the grants (if indeed grant is the correct word)
appear to be rather silly.
Silly or not is in the eyes of individuals - but spending $18 million
on a flag referendum when a majority of New Zealanders surveryed early
on said they didn't want any change was worse than silly
Promising 100,000 affordable houses was even sillier Rich!
BR
2020-09-26 02:56:28 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:47:30 -0700 (PDT), James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this year's total arts budget.
That's the best reason I can think of as to why the government should
not be involved in "arts" at all.

Bill.
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Rich80105
2020-09-26 06:00:06 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:47:30 -0700 (PDT), James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/25/need-to-get-your-hands-on-a-large-lump-sum-of-cash/
Read mark learn and inwardly digest lest you overlook the opportunity to get
some cash for an important contribution to society or just to have fun with.
Regardless of individual merit, the grants listed come to about 0.2% of this year's total arts budget.
Add on the financial assistance given to the Taxpayers "Union" itself
. . . .
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