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Green Policies from National
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Rich80105
2020-02-29 02:48:58 UTC
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https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches

Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Tony
2020-02-29 03:05:05 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Rich80105
2020-02-29 04:51:12 UTC
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
in 2014 - see:
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432

Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
Tony
2020-02-29 05:35:00 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
Rich80105
2020-02-29 07:36:26 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?

And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
Tony
2020-02-29 20:16:26 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
Rich80105
2020-02-29 23:13:17 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:16:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
Look here:
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/

The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?

It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
Tony
2020-03-01 00:12:34 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:16:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
Rich80105
2020-03-01 01:10:24 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:16:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
Tony
2020-03-01 01:23:53 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 18:12:34 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:16:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
No you pathetic old man. As I said, using short words, the latest policy is a
good one.
Go away and find a primary teacher to teach you some English and some manners.
Rich80105
2020-03-01 06:01:57 UTC
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
No you pathetic old man. As I said, using short words, the latest policy is a
good one.
Go away and find a primary teacher to teach you some English and some manners.
I thought the policy was good too, until I found out that it had
already been put in place by the then government in 2014, and that the
"new" policy in effect amounts to cutting back on the current level of
funding. How is that good, Tony?
Tony
2020-03-01 06:12:11 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 18:12:34 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:16:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
No you pathetic old man. As I said, using short words, the latest policy is a
good one.
Go away and find a primary teacher to teach you some English and some manners.
I thought the policy was good too, until I found out that it had
already been put in place by the then government in 2014, and that the
"new" policy in effect amounts to cutting back on the current level of
funding. How is that good, Tony?
Because it is a good policy. What happened before is history. Simple really.
How about you argue against the policy or shut up?
Rich80105
2020-03-01 07:38:33 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:16:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
No you pathetic old man. As I said, using short words, the latest policy is a
good one.
Go away and find a primary teacher to teach you some English and some manners.
I thought the policy was good too, until I found out that it had
already been put in place by the then government in 2014, and that the
"new" policy in effect amounts to cutting back on the current level of
funding. How is that good, Tony?
Because it is a good policy. What happened before is history. Simple really.
How about you argue against the policy or shut up?
So you think that a policy of cutting funding to a programme started
by the Government that Simon Bridges was part of, and continued by the
current government, is a good policy. Simple really, you support
cutting funding for a community programme, and support National
representing this as spending more on cleaning up beaches. Sounds like
a lie, looks like a lie - do you agree, Tony?
Tony
2020-03-01 19:31:46 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 01 Mar 2020 00:12:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 19:23:53 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 18:12:34 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:16:26 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:35:00 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a
scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
No you pathetic old man. As I said, using short words, the latest policy is a
good one.
Go away and find a primary teacher to teach you some English and some manners.
I thought the policy was good too, until I found out that it had
already been put in place by the then government in 2014, and that the
"new" policy in effect amounts to cutting back on the current level of
funding. How is that good, Tony?
Because it is a good policy. What happened before is history. Simple really.
How about you argue against the policy or shut up?
So you think that a policy of cutting funding to a programme started
by the Government that Simon Bridges was part of, and continued by the
current government, is a good policy. Simple really, you support
cutting funding for a community programme, and support National
representing this as spending more on cleaning up beaches. Sounds like
a lie, looks like a lie - do you agree, Tony?
Absolute rubbish. You cannot debate without distortring what others write.
What you have spewed above is not what I wrote and cannot be deduced from what
I wrote.
Go away and waste your time somewhere else.
Rich80105
2020-03-01 22:14:06 UTC
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:05:05 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a
scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
No you pathetic old man. As I said, using short words, the latest policy is a
good one.
Go away and find a primary teacher to teach you some English and some manners.
I thought the policy was good too, until I found out that it had
already been put in place by the then government in 2014, and that the
"new" policy in effect amounts to cutting back on the current level of
funding. How is that good, Tony?
Because it is a good policy. What happened before is history. Simple really.
How about you argue against the policy or shut up?
So you think that a policy of cutting funding to a programme started
by the Government that Simon Bridges was part of, and continued by the
current government, is a good policy. Simple really, you support
cutting funding for a community programme, and support National
representing this as spending more on cleaning up beaches. Sounds like
a lie, looks like a lie - do you agree, Tony?
Absolute rubbish. You cannot debate without distortring what others write.
What you have spewed above is not what I wrote and cannot be deduced from what
I wrote.
Go away and waste your time somewhere else.
I have not argued that it is not a good policy - in fact the thread
started with my applauding it. Now we know that the policy was
introduced by the National-led government in 2014, and has been
supported since by the current government.
See:
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-conservation-fund-announced
and
https://www.doc.govt.nz/news/media-releases/2014/new-conservation-fund-announced/

Note that spending was expected to be around $6 million to $7 million
a year, and it replaced another fund then costing $3.6 million a year.

The 2020 round is for $5.6 million of funding; Bridges proposed to
reduce that to $5 million ofver three years.

That Simon Bridges did not realise he was advocating introducing an
existing policy,is amusing, but my concern is that Bridges is
effectively proposing to cut back on the existing programme.
Tony
2020-03-01 23:56:19 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Indeed it is not huge but at least unlike this government it is a
scheme.
Since posting the above I have been told it was introduced by
National
https://twitter.com/nealejones/status/1233506342264082432
Never mind; most people will not notice . . .
No they won't notice that you got it wrong.
How does the current announced policy differe from the 2014 programme,
Tony?
Who cares? The only one that matters is the latest one.
Post by Rich80105
And does it concern yu that the current government have budgeted
around $5 million for the next year only?
No, about time they did something of value albeit small value.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/get-involved/funding/doc-community-fund/
The government are inviting applications for $5.6 million for 2020 -
are you really celebrating National promising to reduce funding for a
programme that they introduced in 2014 by spreading a lower amount
than already allocated for this year, over the following three years?
It seems Bridges was not aware of his own govrnment's decisions - I
guess it wasn't transport and he has nobody able to investigate
proposed policies . . .
So what?
It is a good policy from the opposition.
To promise to cut back the scheme they introduced?
No you pathetic old man. As I said, using short words, the latest policy
is
a
good one.
Go away and find a primary teacher to teach you some English and some manners.
I thought the policy was good too, until I found out that it had
already been put in place by the then government in 2014, and that the
"new" policy in effect amounts to cutting back on the current level of
funding. How is that good, Tony?
Because it is a good policy. What happened before is history. Simple really.
How about you argue against the policy or shut up?
So you think that a policy of cutting funding to a programme started
by the Government that Simon Bridges was part of, and continued by the
current government, is a good policy. Simple really, you support
cutting funding for a community programme, and support National
representing this as spending more on cleaning up beaches. Sounds like
a lie, looks like a lie - do you agree, Tony?
Absolute rubbish. You cannot debate without distortring what others write.
What you have spewed above is not what I wrote and cannot be deduced from what
I wrote.
Go away and waste your time somewhere else.
I have not argued that it is not a good policy - in fact the thread
started with my applauding it. Now we know that the policy was
introduced by the National-led government in 2014, and has been
supported since by the current government.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-conservation-fund-announced
and
https://www.doc.govt.nz/news/media-releases/2014/new-conservation-fund-announced/
Note that spending was expected to be around $6 million to $7 million
a year, and it replaced another fund then costing $3.6 million a year.
The 2020 round is for $5.6 million of funding; Bridges proposed to
reduce that to $5 million ofver three years.
That Simon Bridges did not realise he was advocating introducing an
existing policy,is amusing, but my concern is that Bridges is
effectively proposing to cut back on the existing programme.
Well feel free to follow that concern.
The only thing that I have argued is that it is a good policy. Period.
All else is a different argument.
Gordon
2020-03-02 05:28:51 UTC
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I have not argued that it is not a good policy - in fact the thread
started with my applauding it.
Then you arrive at saying it is not good as blah blah and etc.
Rich80105
2020-03-02 08:08:51 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
I have not argued that it is not a good policy - in fact the thread
started with my applauding it.
Then you arrive at saying it is not good as blah blah and etc.
No, it is a good policy; it is just that it is already in place - and
with a higher budget than Simon Bridges appears to be able to justify.
John Bowes
2020-02-29 21:20:15 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
https://www.national.org.nz/working_together_to_clean_up_nz_s_beaches
Its not a very big scheme, but they have to start somewhere
Damn sight more sensible than any of the CoL environmental policies Rich. Better to make small beginnings than the exorbitant and over priced shit coming out of the CoL!
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