On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:48:52 +1200, grumpyoldhori
Post by grumpyoldhori Post by t***@texas...removethisbit...usacom..
I don't know how much you guys receive but there is growing questions
being voiced on tv over here about the Mayor and his council's role in
The power structure and police department are predominately black.
Example: the Mayor issued a proclomation for a mandatory evacuation.
He knows the city is around 70% black and in poverty.
But what shots did he call to deal with that?
Strange that the Congressional Black Caucus and the NAACP is not
focusing on the Mayor's et al role rather than critize rescue efforts.
The Mayor *does* bear ultimate responsibility.
And when you sit down and think of it, why has other towns and cities
of LA not come to their aid?
When a hurricane is inbound, school gyms etc become shelters.
Surely they do have them throughout LA schools?
Cath,what has colour to do with it,from all accounts the General
in charge of the military,is a bad tempered,demanding sod,who
happens to be black.
Go back through the history of NO particularly in the past twenty odd
Post by grumpyoldhori
That mayor and the Governor of the state are bloody useless,
if you have a city in the hurricane zone,at some stage
you will be hit.
Yes,why were school gyms not used,why not have supplies
in place for when you have to evacuate.
This is my bitch - I for one would love to know what went wrong if
there wasn't anything to go wrong in the first place i.e. contingency
plans etc [this is addressed elsewhere].
Post by grumpyoldhori
Why take the people so far away,when there will be jobs
available,in the clean up.
It is my guess that you will see an influx of illegals looking for
They tend to turn up when there's building.
Just go park near a big box store [Home Depot/Lowe's] etc, or certain
They will be the ones who will work in whatever weather for even less
than legal minimum wage.
Illegals will set up shacks with just pieces of cardboard and a tarp.
I know from living in CA and still reading CA media online, it's an
on-going process - they tear a shanty town down and another springs up
They will live in conditions that do not include having electricity
and especially air-conditioning!
President Fox of Mexico recently made a comment about illegals doing
the work that blacks don't want to do.
Even Nation of Islam leader, quote:
Mexican President Vicente Fox was right to say that Mexican immigrants
take jobs "that not even blacks want."
Even though Fox apologised later on, it is still very much the truth
and something that is said time and time again here!
You go through El Centro, CA during the very early am hours and see
just which race is out there waiting to be bussed to the fields to
work in the hot blazing sun - hispanics and maybe a few whities.
I could take you to many corners in Southern California [San Diego to
Los Angeles including within a half mile from Disneyland] and show you
the many hispanics waiting for day work.
And believe me, there are a huge number here in Texas - to the point
where Houston is going to open a centre so they won't hang out on
And I agree, why take them so far!
The oh and I have had a discussion on this - my reckoning is if they
set up tent cities in LA, there will only be a bitch because they
don't have airconditioning!
But more realistically, there are no services i.e. sewerage systems,
hospitals, schools etc.
I was listening to Texas News tonight regarding those in Houston.
Logistically Houston alone has one **** huge nightmare on their hands
sorting out the kids who need to go to school, their grades, bussing,
school lunches, books, text books etc etc...
And that's just the kids.
Then you have to start with the adults who did not get out with their
Social Security cards, welfare whatevers etc - and hey, TX computers
aren't set up with that info LOL....
There is still a big fear of diseases that take days-weeks to erupt.
Long term, there is the mental health issues that will erupt.
And again, I harp back to why did it have to happen!
Like many, I want to see answers and more so, accountability.
And I am freaking sick and tired about hearing what Bush didn't do....
the responsibility of first response lays squarely with the local
People should not have lost their lives, and everything else the way
they did. Because of????? [yet to be revealed].
Realistically you have to wonder what the huge increase is doing to
San Anton's, Houston's and Dallas systems.
More so, what will be the long term effects - already Dallas PD is
having to station officers around the venue for control purposes.
So that's x number of officers not on 'the beat'.
As for taking so many away when they should be nearer!
ALL able bodied men and women receiving unemployment etc should be
taken back to LA at the appropriate time to assist in the cleanup.
No ifs and no buts.
[Look at what our grandparents/parents did to put food on the table
during the Great Depression - even if it meant having to work away
form home for long periods].
I look at it in a much different angle than many in NZ have but that
comes from my training in dealing with emergencies.
I was fortunate to be doing my internship with Continental Airlines
Sales Dept at the time of the LA riots in 1992.
I was just utterly amazed at the plans LAX had that could be put into
action at any given moment; ditto for the airline!
So yes, I do see things from a different angle.
We hopefully all make plans that we teach our children i.e.for them to
escape during a house fire; the principles are the same - safe escape
[but on a larger scale]. Prepare is the word!
I don't know if the NZ Red Cross still runs it but one course I highly
recommend if they do, is their Community Health & Hygiene.