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John Bowes
2021-03-22 22:07:28 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
James Christophers
2021-03-23 00:16:16 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.

From the article you cite:

"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."

If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?

On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.

Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.

[1] Judith Collins (2017):

Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson

This entire MP list dated March 2017:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties

Now to this Herald report:

In politics "No" never means "never".

Now to the Herald's reporting of Collins's big time:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/

Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
John Bowes
2021-03-23 01:52:59 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
James Christophers
2021-03-23 03:03:14 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
Just one more time for the slow learners around these parts:

In politics "No" never means "never". Not arse-covering but a political fact of life, and nothing you can say makes it otherwise. The same goes for your therapist and mentor, Collins, whose brainfart challenging of reality has once again left her floundering in her own shallow hubris.
Nellie the Elephant
2021-03-23 03:54:03 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
In politics "No" never means "never". Not arse-covering but a political fact of life, and nothing you can say makes it otherwise. The same goes for your therapist and mentor, Collins, whose brainfart challenging of reality has once again left her floundering in her own shallow hubris.
Ever the pragmatist eh?
Fact is, just because politicians (at least most of them) have always
lied does not mean that it is acceptable for them to do so.
Time for more to stand up against our lying servants.
I admire people of principle, not liars.
James Christophers
2021-03-23 04:26:20 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
In politics "No" never means "never". Not arse-covering but a political fact of life, and nothing you can say makes it otherwise. The same goes for your therapist and mentor, Collins, whose brainfart challenging of reality has once again left her floundering in her own shallow hubris.
Ever the pragmatist eh?
Whether politician or commentator, in politics, pragmatism rules. (Which reminds me: the first time I recall "pragmatism" entering the political lexicon was when Harold Wilson used the term, I think, during the the late 1960's. It has stuck, and nothing more telling or direct has replaced it since then.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Fact is, just because politicians (at least most of them) have always
lied does not mean that it is acceptable for them to do so.
Nor that they invariably lie on every occasion.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
Time for more to stand up against our lying servants.
It's really just a sub-set of the human condition, emphasised and amplified through their own mouths and in cahoots with the media.
Post by Nellie the Elephant
I admire people of principle, not liars.
Politics is perpetually cursed by its succession of those who have gone before. So, sadly, however honourable and principled the individual incoming politician may truly be, from the start he will always bear the mark - the stigma - of the curse, like it or not. How effectively and convincingly he deals with it, and in what circumstances, is the cross he must bear throughout his incumbency. Mmmmm...crocodile tears, anyone?
John Bowes
2021-03-23 08:39:03 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
In politics "No" never means "never". Not arse-covering but a political fact of life, and nothing you can say makes it otherwise. The same goes for your therapist and mentor, Collins, whose brainfart challenging of reality has once again left her floundering in her own shallow hubris.
Once again you talk the bleeding obvious coupled with utter crap Keith and you know it!
Just one more time for comprehensionless fools like you Keith. They fucking LIED! AGAIN just like you :)
Mutlley
2021-03-23 03:44:29 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
No doubt all the Liebor party supporters have been told to put a
positive spin on this on newspaper comments sections and social media.
James Christophers
2021-03-23 04:26:42 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would be nothing like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
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No doubt all the Liebor party supporters have been told to put a
positive spin on this on newspaper comments sections and social media.
No spin required on my part. Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts as I have made plain in my second response to the OP.
James Christophers
2021-03-23 04:28:02 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
.
"The Government say (sic) this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with (sic) investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would be nothing like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
,
(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
Lying is the act of deliberately and with forethought stating that which you know to be false. This Roberston did not do. However, kindly mentor to the clapped-out, cognitively bewildered that he is, to help relieve Granny Jude[1] of her routine tendency to false misconceptions, he has reportedly conceded his original response/statement had been "too specific".

He's right. Ergo, in terms, there was and is no lie.

And so to leaven the discourse a little:

[1] https://www.metromag.co.nz/society/society-people/the-obituary-of-judith-collins-died-april-1-2053
Gordon
2021-03-23 06:13:44 UTC
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So much for robertsons honesty when Robertson committed to NOT extending the bright line test! From the article (for the clueless Rich80105) "It is likely to be extremely controversial as Finance Minister Grant Robertson directly committed to not extending the bright-line test prior to the election."
Labour: Let's Keep Lying!
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"The Government say this will level the playing field for first home buyers competing with investors to buy property."
If this is true and does turn out to be the case, then it gives a fairer go to those rightfully seeking home to call their own. Not OK with you?
On the other hand, if you can give a watertight reason why windfall profits made by those who speculate in property should not be taxed like other categories of financial speculation such as, say, shares and dividends, then kindly let us have it.
Meanwhile, the nation has yet to hear one single solitary peep out of Collins as to how she would restore some sorely needed social justice to a problem that has seen those like Collins[1] - long since, one notes, on a tax-free gravy train, effectively placing out of reach those indisputably no less deserving of that which they rightfully consider their fair due.
Family home (owned by trusts), Auckland
Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme),
Wellington
Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme), Nelson
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409698/the-many-houses-of-our-mps--which-mps-have-a-stake-in-multiple-properties
In politics "No" never means "never".
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/housing-crisis-national-leader-judith-collins-says-grant-robertson-lied-to-kiwis-over-bright-line-test/XODP3XF7OUED4AUH65736YTMBA/
Apropos of which I don't recall Collins - who uses the specific word, "promise" - whingeing about Key lying - after breaking his earlier "promise" not to, by raising GST to 15% when she and those of her stripe knew all along that they, the wealthier, would noting like as disadvantaged by such a tax hike as would have been the less well off. Just as there's no bigger Tory than a spiv, nobody does cynical self-interest like National.
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(Incidentally, challenged by Soper to consider just how economic and home ownership circumstances have changed since the election, Collins immediately goes lame as she crumples and dissolves away like a pavlova left out in the rain.)
Keith despite your vain attempt to cover the governments arse THEY LIED! and you know it!
Good grief! They all lie, they are politicans. Please take this on board.
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