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The destructiveness of Trump
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Rich80105
2020-11-14 09:37:57 UTC
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It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Tony
2020-11-14 19:54:17 UTC
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https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
Rich80105
2020-11-15 01:29:54 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:54:17 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
Not that tiny a minority:
" Very few Kiwi Trumpers identified with arch-populist Winston Peters,
however. Only 4.9% of them said he is the party leader they felt
closest to, perhaps because of his coalition with Labour after the
2017 election. They were more attached to National’s Judith Collins
(46.6%) and ACT Party leader David Seymour (30.2%).

Only 20% of National supporters overall said they hoped Trump would
win. But this sub-group of National supporters made up 56% of the
entire cohort of Kiwi Trumpers. A further 23% of Kiwi Trumpers
supported ACT. So, the National Party is the preferred party of the
Kiwi Trumper."
Tony
2020-11-15 03:56:03 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:54:17 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
" Very few Kiwi Trumpers identified with arch-populist Winston Peters,
however. Only 4.9% of them said he is the party leader they felt
closest to, perhaps because of his coalition with Labour after the
2017 election. They were more attached to National’s Judith Collins
(46.6%) and ACT Party leader David Seymour (30.2%).
Only 20% of National supporters overall said they hoped Trump would
win. But this sub-group of National supporters made up 56% of the
entire cohort of Kiwi Trumpers. A further 23% of Kiwi Trumpers
supported ACT. So, the National Party is the preferred party of the
Kiwi Trumper."
In your wet dreams.
What a stuipid man you are.
Very few New Zealanders like Trump and you know it.
Go away and ignore polls (none of them are worthy of our attention).
Anyway I do not support National or any political party. You?
Rich80105
2020-11-15 04:23:29 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 21:56:03 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:54:17 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
" Very few Kiwi Trumpers identified with arch-populist Winston Peters,
however. Only 4.9% of them said he is the party leader they felt
closest to, perhaps because of his coalition with Labour after the
2017 election. They were more attached to National’s Judith Collins
(46.6%) and ACT Party leader David Seymour (30.2%).
Only 20% of National supporters overall said they hoped Trump would
win. But this sub-group of National supporters made up 56% of the
entire cohort of Kiwi Trumpers. A further 23% of Kiwi Trumpers
supported ACT. So, the National Party is the preferred party of the
Kiwi Trumper."
In your wet dreams.
You are correctthat 20% of National supporters is a smaller number of
New Zealanders than it used to be.
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What a stuipid man you are.
Very few New Zealanders like Trump and you know it.
Go away and ignore polls (none of them are worthy of our attention).
Quite a popular view at present, Tony - you will of course remember
Bolger saying "bugger the polls."
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Anyway I do not support National or any political party. You?
That is also a popular assertion - it has always been popular with
National supporters who pride themselves on not admitting to
supporting any party - a an assertion of independence that becomes
point of principle for those that like to see themselves as "winners"
- even as they provide donations to the National Party . . .
Particularly at present I suspect many previously vocal supporters of
National are publicly asserting that they do not support any party . .
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Tony
2020-11-15 04:51:45 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 21:56:03 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:54:17 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
" Very few Kiwi Trumpers identified with arch-populist Winston Peters,
however. Only 4.9% of them said he is the party leader they felt
closest to, perhaps because of his coalition with Labour after the
2017 election. They were more attached to National’s Judith Collins
(46.6%) and ACT Party leader David Seymour (30.2%).
Only 20% of National supporters overall said they hoped Trump would
win. But this sub-group of National supporters made up 56% of the
entire cohort of Kiwi Trumpers. A further 23% of Kiwi Trumpers
supported ACT. So, the National Party is the preferred party of the
Kiwi Trumper."
In your wet dreams.
You are correctthat 20% of National supporters is a smaller number of
New Zealanders than it used to be.
You are lying again, that is not what I wrote and it is not even correct, do
look at the election results.
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Post by Tony
What a stuipid man you are.
Very few New Zealanders like Trump and you know it.
Go away and ignore polls (none of them are worthy of our attention).
Quite a popular view at present, Tony - you will of course remember
Bolger saying "bugger the polls."
He was correct, they are nearly always nonsense.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Anyway I do not support National or any political party. You?
That is also a popular assertion - it has always been popular with
National supporters who pride themselves on not admitting to
supporting any party - a an assertion of independence that becomes
point of principle for those that like to see themselves as "winners"
- even as they provide donations to the National Party . . .
Particularly at present I suspect many previously vocal supporters of
National are publicly asserting that they do not support any party . .
You are certifiably mad to think that. Please get help.
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John Bowes
2020-11-15 06:44:45 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:54:17 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
" Very few Kiwi Trumpers identified with arch-populist Winston Peters,
however. Only 4.9% of them said he is the party leader they felt
closest to, perhaps because of his coalition with Labour after the
2017 election. They were more attached to National’s Judith Collins
(46.6%) and ACT Party leader David Seymour (30.2%).
Only 20% of National supporters overall said they hoped Trump would
win. But this sub-group of National supporters made up 56% of the
entire cohort of Kiwi Trumpers. A further 23% of Kiwi Trumpers
supported ACT. So, the National Party is the preferred party of the
Kiwi Trumper."
In your wet dreams.
What a stuipid man you are.
Very few New Zealanders like Trump and you know it.
Go away and ignore polls (none of them are worthy of our attention).
Anyway I do not support National or any political party. You?
Can't expect much more than fake news from a fucking imbecile like Rich. He's happy USA now may have a Marxist muppet for a president!
Rich80105
2020-11-15 08:19:27 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:54:17 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
" Very few Kiwi Trumpers identified with arch-populist Winston Peters,
however. Only 4.9% of them said he is the party leader they felt
closest to, perhaps because of his coalition with Labour after the
2017 election. They were more attached to National’s Judith Collins
(46.6%) and ACT Party leader David Seymour (30.2%).
Only 20% of National supporters overall said they hoped Trump would
win. But this sub-group of National supporters made up 56% of the
entire cohort of Kiwi Trumpers. A further 23% of Kiwi Trumpers
supported ACT. So, the National Party is the preferred party of the
Kiwi Trumper."
In your wet dreams.
What a stuipid man you are.
Very few New Zealanders like Trump and you know it.
Go away and ignore polls (none of them are worthy of our attention).
Anyway I do not support National or any political party. You?
Can't expect much more than fake news from a fucking imbecile like Rich. He's happy USA now may have a Marxist muppet for a president!
That is just stupid, John Bowes - Biden and the USA Democratic Party
are to the right of the New Zealand National Party!
John Bowes
2020-11-15 11:47:40 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:54:17 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Only a tiny minority and therefore of little concern except to conspiracy
theorists until they do something unlawful.
" Very few Kiwi Trumpers identified with arch-populist Winston Peters,
however. Only 4.9% of them said he is the party leader they felt
closest to, perhaps because of his coalition with Labour after the
2017 election. They were more attached to National’s Judith Collins
(46.6%) and ACT Party leader David Seymour (30.2%).
Only 20% of National supporters overall said they hoped Trump would
win. But this sub-group of National supporters made up 56% of the
entire cohort of Kiwi Trumpers. A further 23% of Kiwi Trumpers
supported ACT. So, the National Party is the preferred party of the
Kiwi Trumper."
In your wet dreams.
What a stuipid man you are.
Very few New Zealanders like Trump and you know it.
Go away and ignore polls (none of them are worthy of our attention).
Anyway I do not support National or any political party. You?
Can't expect much more than fake news from a fucking imbecile like Rich. He's happy USA now may have a Marxist muppet for a president!
That is just stupid, John Bowes - Biden and the USA Democratic Party
are to the right of the New Zealand National Party!
BULLSHIT! They're about as 'right wing' as you Rich. But guess you lefty's will always protect each other :)
James Christophers
2020-11-14 22:31:55 UTC
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https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Doubtless Burke would have concurred, even though in today's worldwide political climate he tends more often than not to be trotted out by the mindlessly paranoid.
Gordon
2020-11-15 04:19:59 UTC
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https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Why stop there, how about the President or PM of other nations apart from
the US of A?

Trump has run the US of A as he would run a business.

There will always be differences of opinion and allowing them and working
through them with out undue tension is the aim.
causing issues is
Rich80105
2020-11-15 04:36:39 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Why stop there, how about the President or PM of other nations apart from
the US of A?
Fair comment; Trumpocracy is however normally associated with the USA,
but comparisons have also been made with Boris Johnson
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Trump has run the US of A as he would run a business.
Indeed, and the line-up of those wishing to take him to court is
considerable.
Post by Gordon
There will always be differences of opinion and allowing them and working
through them with out undue tension is the aim.
Not an aim it appears of Trump, or his supporters..
Post by Gordon
causing issues is
John Bowes
2020-11-15 06:46:59 UTC
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https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/lost-cause-of-the-trumpocracy-by-elizabeth-drew-2020-11
It is clear from this and other articles, that the extremist views of
Trump and his cronies are getting perilously close to being akin to
treason. That some in New Zealand appear to have similar views is a
caution to us all.
Why stop there, how about the President or PM of other nations apart from
the US of A?
Fair comment; Trumpocracy is however normally associated with the USA,
but comparisons have also been made with Boris Johnson
Post by Gordon
Trump has run the US of A as he would run a business.
Indeed, and the line-up of those wishing to take him to court is
considerable.
Post by Gordon
There will always be differences of opinion and allowing them and working
through them with out undue tension is the aim.
Not an aim it appears of Trump, or his supporters..
Post by Gordon
causing issues is
Most definitely not the aim of a comprehensionless communist imbecile like you either Rich. Typical of the left and religious nutcases like the followers of Islam you believe the one true path is the one you follow.
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