On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 17:34:55 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony Post by Mutlley Post by Tony
You decide, I see some truth in this.
At his best I think.. Good article.
Yes he is a worry, sometimes he is so far off the wall that I fear for his
sanity, but when he is on song he is worth reading.
Something has to be done about this move to divide our country.
What move would that be, Tony? Bob Jones doesn't identify any
Post by Tony
government (any other government right now!) would help.
Where I live there is very little obvious division between different races. We
have asian, Maori and european people. I am involved with a large charity which
helps all of those and the voluinteers come from all parts of the community.
The prime movers of the charity (all volunteers) include all of our different
ethnicities, working well together. So based on that and other countrywide
observations I can only conclude that Bob Jones is correct. There is a small
powerful group of people driving this obscenity, and they need to be removed by
You are being too harsh on Judith Collins - she is merely trying to
retain support from the biggoted and racially prejudiced supporters of
Both Labour and National-led governments have accepted that change was
needed as regards true compliance with the binding treaty signed
between the Crown and Maori, abnd those successive governments have
made progress primarily on land issues relating to groups of Maori,
but in recent times there are issues being raised, and supported by
our Court system, that relate to other issues, such as language, and
rights relating to land and water use.
Bob Jones has always regarded contracts as worth supporting if hewants
them to be supported, and argued against if he doesn't, National has
at times used the "sanctity of contract" to ensure that contracts that
deliver wealth to a select few are hard to back away from; but is less
keen on compliance with some of the issues currently being raised -
they regard some as having an unfettered right to exploit land and
workers to the glory of profit, and bugger everyone else!
There have been a lot of Ministers for treaty settlements that have
performed well - and I include among those Doug Graham and Chris
Finlayson. Now Graham didn't exactly cover himself with glory over
Lombard Finance, but we know National are not good with other peoples
money (Jenny Shipley was also embarrassed that way). They however
realised that they could not just walk away from Maori Claims, that
there were legitimate grievances, and that they could not ride
roughshod over the claimants and their representatives.
The need for honesty in dealing with Maori is perhaps illustrated by
electoral support - in general National does not treat Maori well - at
least in part this is because they do not treat a majority of the
population well, being those earning less than average income, but
that sector does at present include most Maori. The continued sniping
of National over any support for Maori is unlikely to change that, but
not all National people agree with it. Just this morning an
ex-National MP spoke on a cuple of issues where National and their
supporters have deliberately lied and shown racist attitudes - go to
and click on "National's gang member sanctions 'unworkable' -former
Minister - it is the 6th item and only lasts just over 7 minutes; well
worth a listen to hear a National person tell the truth . . .
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Here is a pretty full on commentary. If half of this is correct we have little
time to get rid of this government.