Post by James Christophers Post by Rich80105 Post by Crash
On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 13:40:40 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 21:47:41 +1300, Crash
On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 21:03:38 +1300, Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 23:58:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot
Post by Tony Post by Crash
On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 22:14:51 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon
Post by Tony Post by Tony
There are dozens of stations that cater for young people as
Classical music is soul food.
Completely missing from that article is what problem is that the
proposal is a solution to.
Almost certainly money. Do you care enough to pay slightly higher
taxes to keep it?
Nothing about money in the article
Perhaps that is why the previous poster said "Completely missing from
that article is what problem is that the proposal is a solution to." -
and we had nine years where the only important priorities were
subsidies to business or tax cuts - the question is whether that went
too far if budget concerns are now hitting what somebelieve to be a
You are in fact replying to the "previous poster" and you have added
this. The previous Labour PM and Dame Kiri are both upset by this
I doubt it has anything to do with money and it certainly was not
previous government - that is hogwash.
and I would have thought it would
have been mentioned if it was. As things stand, the proposed actions
are a solution in search of a problem.
It is not uncommon these days for reporters to merely report what they
are given' there are very few quality journalists; in our money is
everything neo-liberal world, the lowest denominator makes the most
money - if you want real journalism you mnay need to pay for it . . .
Entirely off topic.
Correct. For the benefit of Rich: the topic (in the article Tony
cited in the OP) is proposed changes to the RNZ Concert Program that
see it broadcast only on AM and internet streaming in order to allow a
new youth-focused program (derogatorily called 'Spotify-on-air) to be
Sometimes the reasons for prposals or results need a bit more
information. James Christophers has provided some good new information
that would have been avaialble to the reporter if more time or skills
had been available - and yes it is related to money - greed from
government to turn away from a public benefit model to a coporate
model, with associated management imperatives.
You have the gist off it but you've gone rather off-track.
Funding is (invariably) a major concern, yes, (forget the party politics of
it if you can just this once), but there's the underlying difficulty of
thinking through a new model within a broadcasting ethos and structure, but
where "radio" per se no longer has a place in the youth mindset and lexicon.
What is so far proposed represents a paradigm shift that will reverberate
throughout this country's entire cultural spectrum. And it will be irreversible.
I'd also add that, every time I hear or read of such threats as this to
"Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
'Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot." (Joni Mitchell)
Mitchell wrote and performed this song, "Big Yellow Taxi", in 1970. It
describes her awaking the first morning after arriving the previous
Hawaii, and the shock of seeing from her bedroom window just how, even
century ago, a remorseless and all-invasive commercial imperative was creeping
like a fungus over the world's archetypal Pacific paradise, already
inexorably despoiling it beyond recovery.
Whether or not Mitchell was being more percipient than she could ever have
known one can't say, but it nevertheless echoes the message that Oscar Wilde
had already famously rammed home, and this was all of a century before Mitchell
"They know the price of everything but the value of nothing."
Now to briefly address your "greed" epithet: Governments around the world
are now completely hostage to Big Finance. They'll vigorously deny it
are and they know it, affirmed by the chaos of 2008 and all that has since
ensued. So, what I believe you are now witnessing illustrates a steady shift
from governing first and foremost **for Society** to governing first and
foremost for Big Finance and the mighty Wall Street leviathans.
So, agreed, Radio New Zealand's travails are a piddling symptom of a creeping
condition, yet the significance of what it portends is, I feel, no laughing
/ Labour issue. We do however have a problem with our media who leap
over considered thought.