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Oh the irony
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Tony
2020-07-13 06:28:54 UTC
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The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Rich80105
2020-07-13 07:21:33 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
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The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
Tony
2020-07-13 07:29:59 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
Rich80105
2020-07-13 09:22:36 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
John Bowes
2020-07-13 09:33:07 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
Rich80105
2020-07-13 10:52:20 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:33:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
One of the donors to National also donated to Labour, but Labour
properly declared it.
John Bowes
2020-07-13 12:31:33 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:33:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
One of the donors to National also donated to Labour, but Labour
properly declared it.
So what? Why is the SFO conducting THREE investigations of Labour? Victimisation? Apart from which the thread is about Labour. You had your cry about Jamie-Ross when it happened. None of us have forgotten what happened and that Ross the whistle blower is up before the courts NOT National despite your constant smears of them!
Tony
2020-07-13 20:16:56 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:33:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a
distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
One of the donors to National also donated to Labour, but Labour
properly declared it.
Still off topic.
John Bowes
2020-07-13 22:23:32 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:33:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a
while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a
distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
One of the donors to National also donated to Labour, but Labour
properly declared it.
Still off topic.
But then Richie plays that card on a daily basis to avoid talking about Labours failings. Typical troll tactics :)
JohnO
2020-07-14 01:01:11 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:33:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
One of the donors to National also donated to Labour, but Labour
properly declared it.
Says who? Not the SFO.
Rich80105
2020-07-14 01:06:45 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:33:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a
while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
One of the donors to National also donated to Labour, but Labour
properly declared it.
Says who? Not the SFO.
Indeed the SFO have not said what they are investigating.

Labour have speculated that it may be in relation to auctions, where
it is not clear whther it should be the owner or purchaser or some mix
of the two that is identified as the donor.

Doubtless we will find out in due course - ambiguities in donation
laws are undesirable.
John Bowes
2020-07-14 02:19:59 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:33:07 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
Post by John Bowes
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a
while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
No garbage, just some facts you may not be happy about.
When is the Jami Lee Ross etc court case?
What has that got to do with the SFO investigating Labour Rich? Just a distraction that currently has Ross and several chinese up before the courts.
One of the donors to National also donated to Labour, but Labour
properly declared it.
Says who? Not the SFO.
Indeed the SFO have not said what they are investigating.
Labour have speculated that it may be in relation to auctions, where
it is not clear whther it should be the owner or purchaser or some mix
of the two that is identified as the donor.
The donor should be identified if his bid exceeds the legal limit Rich! This isn't the first time Labour has been in trouble with these dirty tactics to avoid naming their donors!
Post by Rich80105
Doubtless we will find out in due course - ambiguities in donation
laws are undesirable.
Yes we will and just before an election. Time for Labour to look for scapegoats to cover their dirty politics don't you think Rich?

Save you a post George: thinking and Rich are about as likely as comprehension and Rich.....
George
2020-07-14 20:49:13 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT)
Post by John Bowes
Yes we will and just before an election. Time for Labour to look for
scapegoats to cover their dirty politics don't you think Rich?
Save you a post George: thinking and Rich are about as likely as
comprehension and Rich.....
Thanks are in order rotflmao
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Tony
2020-07-13 20:16:19 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
Removed off topic shit
Rich80105
2020-07-13 22:28:14 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:16:19 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
Removed off topic shit
Oh the irony!
Tony
2020-07-14 02:45:17 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:16:19 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything? Of course it is likely that they
just want to be able to say "but everyone does it" when their donation
problems get aired again.
Or perhaps you had something else in mind?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-patient-info-scandal-reeks-organised-campaign-national-author-nicky-hager-argues?auto=6171093733001
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
Removed off topic shit
Oh the irony!
Well done, on topic at last, a nice change.
George
2020-07-13 19:55:17 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:29:59 -0500
Post by Tony
No none of that garbage. Just the irony.
And now Muller has quit anything liebor do will not make the
headlines ...
Clever
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2020-07-14 02:40:30 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
Why would National admit to anything?
Some might consider it kinder not to intrude on holier-than-thou National's private grief just now. After all, it's not as though said party would wish to further megaphone its lamentably sclerotic condition.

So it's all credit to Ardern with her heartfelt condolences to poor ol' fallen-on-sword Muller. In essence she was saying to him, "Not as easy as it looks, is it, you poor, deluded sap?"

Remember, Muller's aim was always 100% selfish and self-seeking - i.e. to gain power by challenging a consummate born loser with "the smell of death about him". Easy peasy, he thought. A shoo-in.

But no.

Y'see - "A man's gotta know his limitations."
John Bowes
2020-07-13 09:34:17 UTC
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Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
This will only be a surprise to Richie. See he's already trying to distract from Labour being investigated by the SFO :)
John Bowes
2020-07-13 09:41:07 UTC
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Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/serious-fraud-office-investigating-donations-to-labour
The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for a while,
but will they?
In fact there are currently five SFO investigations into political shenanigans. THREE for Labour and one each for NZF and the Nats and the Nat ones against a whistle blower who was up to his eyeballs in shit. Much like Rich :)
George
2020-07-13 19:54:09 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:28:54 -0500
Post by Tony
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The holier than thou brigade would be sensible if they keep quiet for
a while, but will they?
They wanted National investigated.
Only fair that they get investigated too.
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