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OMG, this idiot is our Minister of Health?
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JohnO
2021-09-07 22:26:18 UTC
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It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David Clark.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html

'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients and "curtains" between them.'

Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.

And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the next bed.

I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Tony
2021-09-07 22:41:42 UTC
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Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David Clark.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients and
"curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID positive
patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat any
unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between
beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the
next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make
mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Aerosols don't care about curtains, they go over, under and around them. Quite
happily.
He is just throwing some hard working people under the bus - bloody
politicians, especially the current mob.
James Christophers
2021-09-07 22:51:05 UTC
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Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David Clark.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients and "curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Preceded by the Minister with, "...the Ministry of Health is inquiring why that (alleged lapse) happened...etc." (Standard form response - expect no other.)

Interviewer; "Is that good enough? A curtain doesn't stop does stop Covid, does it?"

So let's see, now...the curtain fabric would have been manufactured from what clinically specified and authorised material, exactly..?
Tony
2021-09-07 23:09:45 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David Clark.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients
and "curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID
positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat
any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between
beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the
next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make
mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Preceded by the Minister with, "...the Ministry of Health is inquiring why
that (alleged lapse) happened...etc." (Standard form response - expect no
other.)
Interviewer; "Is that good enough? A curtain doesn't stop does stop Covid, does it?"
So let's see, now...the curtain fabric would have been manufactured from what
clinically specified and authorised material, exactly..?
Unlikely to be effective against aerosols, they fill the room. See our Ministry
of Health expert opinions.
e.g.
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/csu_14_may_2021_aerosol_transmission.pdf
There are plenty more.
James Christophers
2021-09-08 04:52:52 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David Clark.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients
and "curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID
positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat
any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between
beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the
next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make
mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Preceded by the Minister with, "...the Ministry of Health is inquiring why
that (alleged lapse) happened...etc." (Standard form response - expect no
other.)
Interviewer; "Is that good enough? A curtain doesn't stop does stop Covid, does it?"
So let's see, now...the curtain fabric would have been manufactured from what
clinically specified and authorised material, exactly..?
Unlikely to be effective against aerosols, they fill the room. See our Ministry
of Health expert opinions.
e.g.
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/csu_14_may_2021_aerosol_transmission.pdf
There are plenty more.
And doubtless these will become even more with the extension and widening of research. In which case it seems a partly retardant effect is likely the best that can be expected for now - but at least it has to be better than no retardant at all. Meanwhile, a retardation of another yet closely related kind continues as hoped...

15 community cases today...New Zealand's downward trend gratefully continues.

Meanwhile - today - NSW has just recorded 1480 new local COVID-19 cases, and nine deaths as the state hits a 75 per cent first-dose vaccination target. Victoria records 221 new cases.

OK, even at this juncture such comparisons may well be odious, but if nothing else they at least help maintain a sense of perspective and proportion in a sorely troubled world.
Tony
2021-09-08 04:59:55 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr"
David
Clark.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients
and "curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID
positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat
any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between
beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the
next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make
mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Preceded by the Minister with, "...the Ministry of Health is inquiring why
that (alleged lapse) happened...etc." (Standard form response - expect no
other.)
Interviewer; "Is that good enough? A curtain doesn't stop does stop Covid, does it?"
So let's see, now...the curtain fabric would have been manufactured from what
clinically specified and authorised material, exactly..?
Unlikely to be effective against aerosols, they fill the room. See our Ministry
of Health expert opinions.
e.g.
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/csu_14_may_2021_aerosol_transmission.pdf
There are plenty more.
And doubtless these will become even more with the extension and widening of
research. In which case it seems a partly retardant effect is likely the best
that can be expected for now - but at least it has to be better than no
retardant at all. Meanwhile, a retardation of another yet closely related kind
continues as hoped...
15 community cases today...New Zealand's downward trend gratefully continues.
Meanwhile - today - NSW has just recorded 1480 new local COVID-19 cases, and
nine deaths as the state hits a 75 per cent first-dose vaccination target.
Victoria records 221 new cases.
OK, even at this juncture such comparisons may well be odious, but if nothing
else they at least help maintain a sense of perspective and proportion in a
sorely troubled world.
Masks are a placebo I suspect.
But if people feel safer by wearing them then that is Almost OK. Almost?
Because those people become more dangerous because they think they are
invulnerable and additionally cannot infect others - wrong!
Having said that, we are truly better off than many other countries. But let us
keep our eye on the ball, not the politics for the meantime.
George Black
2021-09-08 20:20:30 UTC
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Post by Tony
Masks are a placebo I suspect.
But if people feel safer by wearing them then that is Almost OK. Almost?
Because those people become more dangerous because they think they are
invulnerable and additionally cannot infect others - wrong!
Having said that, we are truly better off than many other countries. But let us
keep our eye on the ball, not the politics for the meantime.
Looking at the Parliament channel as I scanned by

Little was screaming and frothing at the mouth over being corrected for
one of his many lies.
All very dramatic. With three people in the Chamber (can I add pot????)
And Shane ripping him several new ones :)
George Black
2021-09-09 00:53:10 UTC
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Post by George Black
Post by Tony
Masks are a placebo I suspect.
But if people feel safer by wearing them then that is Almost OK. Almost?
Because those people become more dangerous because they think they are
invulnerable and additionally cannot infect others - wrong!
Having said that, we are truly better off than many other countries. But let us
keep our eye on the ball, not the politics for the meantime.
Looking at the Parliament channel as I scanned by
Little was screaming and frothing at the mouth over being corrected for
one of his many lies.
All very dramatic. With three people in the Chamber (can I add pot????)
And Shane ripping him several new ones :)
I sometimes wonder if Rich ain't another union shill like Little. They both throw tantrums and make stupid demands when they're called out on their persistent lies :)
He's thick enough to be Little
James Christophers
2021-09-09 01:50:42 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David
Clark.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients
and "curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID
positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat
any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between
beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the
next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make
mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Preceded by the Minister with, "...the Ministry of Health is inquiring why
that (alleged lapse) happened...etc." (Standard form response - expect no
other.)
Interviewer; "Is that good enough? A curtain doesn't stop does stop Covid, does it?"
So let's see, now...the curtain fabric would have been manufactured from what
clinically specified and authorised material, exactly..?
Unlikely to be effective against aerosols, they fill the room. See our Ministry
of Health expert opinions.
e.g.
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/csu_14_may_2021_aerosol_transmission.pdf
There are plenty more.
And doubtless these will become even more with the extension and widening of research. In which case it seems a partly retardant effect is likely the best that can be expected for now - but at least it has to be better than no retardant at all. Meanwhile, a retardation of another yet closely related kind continues as hoped...
15 community cases today...New Zealand's downward trend gratefully continues.
Meanwhile - today - NSW has just recorded 1480 new local COVID-19 cases, and nine deaths as the state hits a 75 per cent first-dose vaccination target. Victoria records 221 new cases.
OK, even at this juncture such comparisons may well be odious, but if nothing else they at least help maintain a sense of perspective and proportion in a sorely troubled world.
Further reinforced by the official report of even fewer new Covid-19 cases today - 13 in total, all of them again confined to Plague City, and all of them accounted for.
JohnO
2021-09-09 01:56:47 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David
Clark.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients
and "curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID
positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat
any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between
beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the
next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make
mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Preceded by the Minister with, "...the Ministry of Health is inquiring why
that (alleged lapse) happened...etc." (Standard form response - expect no
other.)
Interviewer; "Is that good enough? A curtain doesn't stop does stop Covid,
does it?"
So let's see, now...the curtain fabric would have been manufactured from what
clinically specified and authorised material, exactly..?
Unlikely to be effective against aerosols, they fill the room. See our Ministry
of Health expert opinions.
e.g.
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/csu_14_may_2021_aerosol_transmission.pdf
There are plenty more.
And doubtless these will become even more with the extension and widening of research. In which case it seems a partly retardant effect is likely the best that can be expected for now - but at least it has to be better than no retardant at all. Meanwhile, a retardation of another yet closely related kind continues as hoped...
15 community cases today...New Zealand's downward trend gratefully continues.
Meanwhile - today - NSW has just recorded 1480 new local COVID-19 cases, and nine deaths as the state hits a 75 per cent first-dose vaccination target. Victoria records 221 new cases.
OK, even at this juncture such comparisons may well be odious, but if nothing else they at least help maintain a sense of perspective and proportion in a sorely troubled world.
Further reinforced by the official report of even fewer new Covid-19 cases today - 13 in total, all of them again confined to Plague City, and all of them accounted for.
It is plague city because the stupid government thinks it is a sensible idea to concentrate COVID cases in our largest population centre. Everyone outside Auckland ought to be grateful.
James Christophers
2021-09-09 02:19:57 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
It looks like Labour found one that is even more incompetent that "Dr" David
Clark.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/latest-on-covid-19-auckland-community-outbreak-wednesday-september-8.html
'He says there was "some distance" between the man and the other patients
and "curtains" between them.'
Indoors for a long period of time... with curtains separating a COVID
positive patient from other patients. And take note that the rule is to treat
any unknown person as COVID positive until tested negative.
And "some distance" is actually fuck all. There would be barely 2m between
beds. You can hardly fit a chair between the bed and the curtain separating the
next bed.
I understand the hospital fucking up as it is under pressure and people make
mistakes. But Angry Andy's comment about curtains is simply beyond belief.
Preceded by the Minister with, "...the Ministry of Health is inquiring why
that (alleged lapse) happened...etc." (Standard form response - expect no
other.)
Interviewer; "Is that good enough? A curtain doesn't stop does stop Covid,
does it?"
So let's see, now...the curtain fabric would have been manufactured from what
clinically specified and authorised material, exactly..?
Unlikely to be effective against aerosols, they fill the room. See our Ministry
of Health expert opinions.
e.g.
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/csu_14_may_2021_aerosol_transmission.pdf
There are plenty more.
And doubtless these will become even more with the extension and widening of research. In which case it seems a partly retardant effect is likely the best that can be expected for now - but at least it has to be better than no retardant at all. Meanwhile, a retardation of another yet closely related kind continues as hoped...
15 community cases today...New Zealand's downward trend gratefully continues.
Meanwhile - today - NSW has just recorded 1480 new local COVID-19 cases, and nine deaths as the state hits a 75 per cent first-dose vaccination target. Victoria records 221 new cases.
OK, even at this juncture such comparisons may well be odious, but if nothing else they at least help maintain a sense of perspective and proportion in a sorely troubled world.
Further reinforced by the official report of even fewer new Covid-19 cases today - 13 in total, all of them again confined to Plague City, and all of them accounted for.
It is plague city because the stupid government thinks it is a sensible idea to concentrate COVID cases in our largest population centre.
No 1 point of entry - shortest, most secure and direct non-stop route to local MIQ. It's what is known as corralling the beast.
Post by JohnO
Everyone outside Auckland ought to be grateful.
Many are, some, believe it or not, without harbouring a shred of schadenfreude. But Plague City also stands accused of holding itself high as the essence, in fact the very apotheosis, of all that is good and great about any nation's largest city.

But for every apotheoisis there is always a nadir-in-waiting...

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