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LOL, Fran O'Sullivan calls Hendy a "Bogus Modeler"
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JohnO
2021-09-27 02:06:19 UTC
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She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html

Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.

So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what they say in their MSM outlets.
Tony
2021-09-27 02:38:33 UTC
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She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
7000 deaths per annum is from another galaxy, he is bogus.
George Black
2021-09-27 19:00:12 UTC
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Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
7000 deaths per annum is from another galaxy, he is bogus.
Just maybe that death rate would be from all causes and a small
percentage would be from Covid
James Christophers
2021-09-27 20:55:25 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
7000 deaths per annum is from another galaxy, he is bogus.
Just maybe that death rate would be from all causes and a small
percentage would be from Covid
Co-morbidity.

"An intuitive response to such a question is to analyze the prevalence of underlying health conditions within a population, also referred to as comorbidities, against existing COVID-19 epidemiological trends and health outcomes." From:

https://www.dovepress.com/can-comorbidity-data-explain-cross-state-and-cross-national-difference-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-RMHP

This one looks somewhat turgid to me but there'll likely be scores of other references for those with compulsions to be indulged...(a new thread, perhaps?)

Meanwhile, questions surrounding the post-Covid prognosis are only just beginning to emerge, including its potential longer term impact on life expectancy:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/27/covid-has-wiped-out-years-of-progress-on-life-expectancy-finds-study
James Christophers
2021-09-27 02:47:17 UTC
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Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what they say in their MSM outlets.
Humble pie retraction:
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.

Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally disavowed by:
"Again, please accept my apology."

The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she beats her hasty retreat.

The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she has put herself in even less tenable.

No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her beseeching confession.
Tony
2021-09-27 03:33:55 UTC
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Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if
what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she
beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would
have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she
has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her beseeching confession.
Except that she is correct. Bogus.
James Christophers
2021-09-27 04:15:57 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if
what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she
beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would
have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she
has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
Except that she is correct. Bogus.
In which case, and is Hendy were to be conclusively proved bogus, then she will have further compromised herself by declaring unequivocally, "This is clearly not the case". Nice one!
James Christophers
2021-09-27 04:17:15 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if
what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she
beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would
have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she
has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
Except that she is correct. Bogus.
CORRECTION:
In which case, and if Hendy were to be conclusively proved bogus, then she will have further compromised herself by declaring unequivocally, "This is clearly not the case". Nice one!
Tony
2021-09-27 04:29:51 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if
what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
disavowed
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she
beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would
have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she
has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
Except that she is correct. Bogus.
In which case, and if Hendy were to be conclusively proved bogus, then she
will have further compromised herself by declaring unequivocally, "This is
clearly not the case". Nice one!
Silly is as silly does Keith. You missed the point as usual.
James Christophers
2021-09-27 04:42:01 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what
they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if
what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
disavowed
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she
beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would
have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she
has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
Except that she is correct. Bogus.
In which case, and if Hendy were to be conclusively proved bogus, then she
will have further compromised herself by declaring unequivocally, "This is
clearly not the case". Nice one!
Silly is as silly does Keith. You missed the point as usual.
The facts, ma'am, just the facts, silly as they seem.
Tony
2021-09-27 05:53:05 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe,
and
what
they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if
what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
disavowed
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as
she
beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should
and
would
have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the
position she
has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
Except that she is correct. Bogus.
In which case, and if Hendy were to be conclusively proved bogus, then she
will have further compromised herself by declaring unequivocally, "This is
clearly not the case". Nice one!
Silly is as silly does Keith. You missed the point as usual.
The facts, ma'am, just the facts, silly as they seem.
Nah, not seem - are.
Silly facts are worthless - by definition.
Bogus is as bogus does.
JohnO
2021-09-27 08:19:41 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.

The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
James Christophers
2021-09-27 21:04:40 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
JohnO
2021-09-27 22:07:14 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK, massive use of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Rich80105
2021-09-28 00:20:37 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK, massive use of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
What damage? On the contrary, Fran O'Sullivan, one of National's most
ardent media supporters has said that she was wrong. I note that
wherever you copied your comment from has given up with trying to use
Singapore to justify the criticism. If New Zealand did experience 7000
deaths we would still have a better experience than at least 50 other
countrie around the world, including the "Plan B"exemplar (remember
"Plan B"?) of Sweden.

New South Wales have only recently given up on an elimination
strategy, so they will not have yet experienced the full impact on
health services.
Read this for an example of how long just one case can take:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-28/ecmo-machines-providing-last-ditch-hope-for-covid-patients/100478356

How would you feel about our hospitals being overrun, JohnO?

If you do not believe 7000 is the correct number that could be
incurred, how many deaths or "long Covid"cases or "long recovery in
hospital" cases are acceptable to you to gain the soprt of "Freedom"
that people in New South Wales and Victoria are experiencing?
JohnO
2021-09-28 05:39:01 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you - even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK, massive use of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
What damage? On the contrary, Fran O'Sullivan, one of National's most
ardent media supporters has said that she was wrong. I note that
wherever you copied your comment from has given up with trying to use
Singapore to justify the criticism. If New Zealand did experience 7000
deaths we would still have a better experience than at least 50 other
countrie around the world, including the "Plan B"exemplar (remember
"Plan B"?) of Sweden.
Arguing with Dickbot is like arguing with an intellectually challenged child, but here we go: Sweden, population 10 mil, has no restrictions, vaccination rate 75% of eligible, currently experiencing a rolling average of approx 2 deaths per day with COVID. So that's around 700 per year, 35o if equated to NZ on population. That's all too complex for Dickbot so I will dumb it down for him: Sweden at 75% full vax and no restrictions seeing a death rate that is 1/20th of that modeled by Hendy based on NZ at 80% vax rate.

So yeah, happy with Sweden as an exemplar for ignoring Hendy's idiotic model and dropping restrictions at 80%.
Post by Rich80105
New South Wales have only recently given up on an elimination
strategy, so they will not have yet experienced the full impact on
health services.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-28/ecmo-machines-providing-last-ditch-hope-for-covid-patients/100478356
How would you feel about our hospitals being overrun, JohnO?
Based on actual real world, won't happen.
Post by Rich80105
If you do not believe 7000 is the correct number that could be
incurred, how many deaths or "long Covid"cases or "long recovery in
hospital" cases are acceptable to you to gain the soprt of "Freedom"
that people in New South Wales and Victoria are experiencing?
I know you are desperate do divert from the thread, which is about modeling and death rates vs vaccination rates. So if you have irrelevant questions, be a good little toady, fuck off, and ask them in your own thread, you brainless little amoeba.
Tony
2021-09-28 01:08:31 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you -
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK, massive use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
Rich80105
2021-09-28 02:21:30 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it publicly.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you -
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK, massive use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
Tony
2021-09-28 03:00:51 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you -
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK, massive use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
Rich80105
2021-09-28 05:02:19 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:00:51 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you -
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK, massive use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
So you can't cope. Tough Shit, Tony; it is exactly on topic - if you
don't know what was predicted in the first place, how can you
determine whether it is reasonable or not? .
Tony
2021-09-28 06:58:14 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:00:51 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe, and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you -
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK,
massive
use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
So you can't cope. Tough Shit, Tony; it is exactly on topic - if you
don't know what was predicted in the first place, how can you
determine whether it is reasonable or not? .
You asked me what my modelling said. Right?.
I am not a modeller so tough shit Rich. Keep to the subject. Can you cope?
Unfortunately no way!
Rich80105
2021-09-28 09:18:43 UTC
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:58:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:00:51 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe,
and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you -
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination. She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK,
massive
use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
So you can't cope. Tough Shit, Tony; it is exactly on topic - if you
don't know what was predicted in the first place, how can you
determine whether it is reasonable or not? .
You asked me what my modelling said. Right?.
I am not a modeller so tough shit Rich. Keep to the subject. Can you cope?
Unfortunately no way!
Thank you for the confirmation of your relative ignorance regarding
modelling. I was for many years involved in professional modelling,
albeit in a different discipline - but the basics of all modelling
emphasise the need for clarity regarding quality of data, clarity of
assumptions, testing of sensitivity, and clarity of outcomes. You and
JohnO have made a heap of assumptions yourselves; you do not know what
the brief was, and essentially your conclusions are likely to be
invalid.
John Bowes
2021-09-28 10:18:27 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:58:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:00:51 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned
MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe,
and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you
-
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the
case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face
O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should
and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and
the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination.
She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong
recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK,
massive
use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's
model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
So you can't cope. Tough Shit, Tony; it is exactly on topic - if you
don't know what was predicted in the first place, how can you
determine whether it is reasonable or not? .
You asked me what my modelling said. Right?.
I am not a modeller so tough shit Rich. Keep to the subject. Can you cope?
Unfortunately no way!
Thank you for the confirmation of your relative ignorance regarding
modelling. I was for many years involved in professional modelling,
albeit in a different discipline - but the basics of all modelling
emphasise the need for clarity regarding quality of data, clarity of
assumptions, testing of sensitivity, and clarity of outcomes. You and
JohnO have made a heap of assumptions yourselves; you do not know what
the brief was, and essentially your conclusions are likely to be
invalid.
Ffs Rich! Why do you keep threads going way past the time the it should be put to bed? That time is about the time you first post in a thread. But then what else do we expect from a comprehensionless, respect free imbecile like you!
John Bowes
2021-09-28 10:20:03 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:58:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:00:51 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned
MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe,
and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you
-
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the
case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face
O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should
and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and
the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination.
She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong
recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK,
massive
use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's
model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
So you can't cope. Tough Shit, Tony; it is exactly on topic - if you
don't know what was predicted in the first place, how can you
determine whether it is reasonable or not? .
You asked me what my modelling said. Right?.
I am not a modeller so tough shit Rich. Keep to the subject. Can you cope?
Unfortunately no way!
Thank you for the confirmation of your relative ignorance regarding
modelling. I was for many years involved in professional modelling,
albeit in a different discipline - but the basics of all modelling
emphasise the need for clarity regarding quality of data, clarity of
assumptions, testing of sensitivity, and clarity of outcomes. You and
JohnO have made a heap of assumptions yourselves; you do not know what
the brief was, and essentially your conclusions are likely to be
invalid.
Plastic kits don't count as modeling in the context of this thread Rich :)
JohnO
2021-09-28 11:41:29 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:58:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:00:51 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned
MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe,
and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe you
-
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the
case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face
O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan should
and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement and
the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong destination.
She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong
recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK,
massive
use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events. Models can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot. Hendy's
model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
So you can't cope. Tough Shit, Tony; it is exactly on topic - if you
don't know what was predicted in the first place, how can you
determine whether it is reasonable or not? .
You asked me what my modelling said. Right?.
I am not a modeller so tough shit Rich. Keep to the subject. Can you cope?
Unfortunately no way!
Thank you for the confirmation of your relative ignorance regarding
modelling. I was for many years involved in professional modelling,
Hahahahaaaa! Too funny. Your bumbling technical incompetence here suggests the only modelling you can do Dickbot, is with plasticine.
Post by Rich80105
albeit in a different discipline - but the basics of all modelling
emphasise the need for clarity regarding quality of data, clarity of
Like the numbers from the UK and Nordic countries that are now open under 80% vaccination? That's the thing people who actually do understand modelling do, Dickbot. They test their model against known data. This test shows Hendy's model to be shit.
Post by Rich80105
assumptions, testing of sensitivity, and clarity of outcomes. You and
JohnO have made a heap of assumptions yourselves; you do not know what
the brief was, and essentially your conclusions are likely to be
invalid.
Tony
2021-09-28 19:45:56 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:58:14 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:00:51 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:08:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by JohnO
She apologised. Presumably not for believing it, but for saying it
publicly.
Post by JohnO
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nz-herald-journalist-fran-o-sullivan-sorry-for-calling-covid-19-expert-shaun-hendy-a-bogus-modeller-in-accidental-tweet.html
Naturally such talk is not for the government bought and owned
MSM.
So we see there is a difference between what journalists believe,
and
what they say in their MSM outlets.
O'Sullivan: "And I regret the use of the word bogus to describe
you
-
even if what was intended to be in private. This is clearly not the
case.
Her openly published "belief" as such conclusively and unequivocally
"Again, please accept my apology."
The only person to have marked herself bogus is egg-on-face O'Sullivan
as she beats her hasty retreat.
The entire local MSM knows that of all journalists O'Sullivan
should
and
would have known better, which only makes her lapse in judgement
and
the
position she has put herself in even less tenable.
No one's fault but hers, and hers alone. And she knows it, hence her
beseeching confession.
The lapse in judgement was purely sending it to the wrong
destination.
She
said what she thought and apologised for sending it to the wrong
recipients.
The only reason she's grovelling is self preservation and employment.
She has made amends while Hendy's acceptance couldn't have been more
courteous or conciliatory. Honour restored. To paraphrase: "The dogs my well
continue to bark, but the caravan has moved on".
The damage to Hendy's reputation sticks. He's modelling 90% fully vaxxed death
rates well in excess double that being seen in the UK with it's 82% fully
vaxxed population, despite far higher population density in the UK,
massive
use
of crowded public transport and much larger super spreader events.
Models
can
be tuned to say anything you want but empirical evidence cannot.
Hendy's
model
looks silly but it was built to order for a silly customer.
Yes that is the point, whether Hendy is a polite person or not is irrelevant.
So what does your modelling say? And what period were the 7000 deaths
predicted by Hendy to be over - someone told me it was over more than
one year, and was a "no other interventions" figure . . . but I have
not seen reports giving that level of detail
So why don't you keep to the subject of the thread and refrain from that
silliness?
So you can't cope. Tough Shit, Tony; it is exactly on topic - if you
don't know what was predicted in the first place, how can you
determine whether it is reasonable or not? .
You asked me what my modelling said. Right?.
I am not a modeller so tough shit Rich. Keep to the subject. Can you cope?
Unfortunately no way!
Thank you for the confirmation of your relative ignorance regarding
modelling. I was for many years involved in professional modelling,
albeit in a different discipline - but the basics of all modelling
emphasise the need for clarity regarding quality of data, clarity of
assumptions, testing of sensitivity, and clarity of outcomes. You and
JohnO have made a heap of assumptions yourselves; you do not know what
the brief was, and essentially your conclusions are likely to be
invalid.
Thank you for showing us all waht an idiot you are.
I doubt you have ever done any modelling of any kind at all.

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